That's what N. Gregory Mankiw, chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisers, recently found out when he inadvisably spoke the truth: Free trade is good for America.
Outsourcing gains "that take place over the Internet or telephone lines are no different than the gains from trade in physical goods transported by ship or plane," Mankiw, who is on leave from his job at Harvard University, told Congress. "When a good or service is produced at lower cost in another country, it makes sense to import it rather than to produce it domestically."
Mankiw was restating for the 21st century the economic law of comparative advantage, which essentially says that nations should play to their strengths. No serious economist would disagree. But Mankiw soon learned a lesson: Better to cloak what you say in fuddy-duddy academic argot than to be clear and controversial.
Soon a typical Washington tempest began swirling. Democrats seized on Mankiw's remarks as a way to paint Bush's advisers as out of touch, especially when jobs in America's information technology industry are seen as vulnerable to offshore outsourcing in China and India.
Remarks likening CEOs to traitors may play well in the primaries, but how close are they to the realities of technology companies that must compete globally?
Remarks likening CEOs to traitors may play well in the primaries, but how close are they to the realities of technology companies that must compete globally?
Consider what would happen if Congress restricted companies from shifting jobs overseas. Because rivals in Europe, Japan and Korea could employ cheaper workers in developing nations, they'd have a leg up on U.S. firms. Foreign investors would recognize that rising protectionism makes U.S. companies less competitive and would choose to take their yen and euros elsewhere, driving down the U.S. stock market, shrinking available capital, and eventually leading to more unemployment than if Congress had done nothing.
It is true that America has lost jobs in the last three years, and the technology sector has been harder-hit than many others. But the job loss has not been as huge as some politicians and news reports would have you believe. America's unemployment rate currently is around 5.7 percent, not especially high by historical standards, and among the lowest in the world. It's certainly the envy of France (9.3 percent), Germany (9 percent), and Canada (6.8 percent).
Just as candlemakers and farriers lost their jobs a century ago, free trade results in temporary disruptions. But in the long run, free trade is vital to a society's overall health. In the 1990s, developing countries hostile to foreign trade experienced average growth rates of negative 1.1 percent per year, while developing countries that embraced freer trade enjoyed growth of positive 5 percent annually.
And let's not forget that U.S. workers in the information technology industry often benefit from outsourcing. The German company Siemens, which makes electronic and electrical products, employs 65,000 people in this country. Sony Electronics employs 2,000 people in just New Jersey, while Belgium's Agfa-Gevaert Group, one of the world's leading imaging companies, writes paychecks to over 5,000 people in the United States. Spain's Terra Lycos employs 418 people in the United States to run Web sites such as Lycos.com, Hotbot.com, Gamesville.com, Tripod.com, RagingBull.com and Wired.com. And those are only a few examples.
Mankiw put it not so gracefully albeit succinctly: "It is natural to ask what new jobs will be created in the future. Policy makers should create an environment in which businesses will expand and jobs will be created. But they should not try to determine precisely which jobs are created or which industries will grow. If government bureaucrats were capable of such foresight, the Soviet Union would have succeeded as a centrally planned economy."
The next act in this political drama will take place Wednesday, when Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan is set to testify before the House Budget Committee. Look to him to recite unemployment figures and discuss offshore outsourcing, but not to be snared in embarrassing missteps. Unlike Mankiw, Greenspan has been around town long enough to appreciate the difference between political reality and the truth.
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?If I were operating some sort of mafia in the United States, I would be only too delighted to have the leading voices of the news media insist to the public that many of my crimes could never have happened. It might even be worth hiring some goofballs to spread preposterous theories about nonexistent conspiracies in order to discredit persons who might stumble upon evidence of the real thing.? ? James Dale Davidson, Strategic Investment Newsletter, 7/25/95, commenting on the Susan Schmidt article in the Washington Post of 7/4/95.
(Do a google search,'schwab lom', and also do google search,'ryals news.com ragingbull cyber bullying '.)
John Reed Stark's Internet Enforcement (OIE)branch of the Securities Exchange Commission
has done little other than harrass some college kid whose profits from illegal touting or promoting of a penny stock over the internet netted pocket change in comparison with such infamous international characters as James Dale Davidson,founder of the National Taxpayers Union and his or Bill Bonner's Agora,Inc.,located out of Baltimore,conveniently near the Beltway and Davidson's National Taxpayers Union office in Alexandria,Virginia.This is not to say that the college student should not be made to see the seriousness of stock fraud but it is criminal when grown men in the Beltway with criminal minds are robbing investors blind and the SEC pretends it doesn't see.
Both Agora Inc and the NTU or National Taxpayers Union are so close the the SEC's Washington, D.C. office and politicians they could probably be in the same social circles and probably are.In fact Grover Norquist and Steve Forbes are NTU connected.Jim Davidson is the founder of Agora Inc. that Bill Bonner of dailyreckoning also claims to be founder of but both appear to have a connection to John Berthoud who heads Davidson's NTU while Bonner presides over Agora Inc.'s penny stock promotion operation both from Baltimore and from France.
And it appears that Agora Inc. employees were the organizers of a conference with ex-DIA George Tenet in New Orleans in 2004 and promoted Ionatron,one of the stocks certain CIA employees invested in through their In-Q-Tel employment fund and that was sold off after some pr lifted the share price.
http://www.oxfordclub.com/bin/o/t/dr.html
James Dale Davidson connected David Patch and his investigatethesec.com has used RagingBull or www.ragingbull.com for years to promote penny stock schemes and coincidentally created his investigatethesec.com website in 2003 after the
NAANSS or National Association Against Naked Short Selling' website closed due to unfavorable attention it was drawing.Also because James Dale Davidson had finally drawn a little scutiny from the SEC for his outrageous lying penny stock promotions through Agora Inc.'Vantage Point'.
The fact that James Dale Davidson made his famous quote,'The SEC lies',about that time and that Patch's investigatethesec appreared about as soon as 'NAANSS' went offline is probably more than coincidence.
I have already covered my reasons for believing Davidson is probably connected to the ncans.net that appeared online,after a strange $100,000+ paid ad in the Washington Post in February claiming W Bush should not place SS funds in stocks until 'naked shorting',a mostly fraudulent claim made by penny stocks the likes of which Davidson and Dave Patch and Agora Inc. promote.This was paid for in great part by Patrick Byrne of Overstock.com and is also where Agora Inc.'s agoracom does occasional promotional ads.I will just put some appropriate links below.Or do google search for 'naanss ncans'.Google,'james dale davidson o'brien'.
What I am getting at regarding ragingbull.com is that virtually every penny stock scam in recent years that has promoted illegal pump and dump activities,(most while the SEC has looked the other way),as well as the few they have persued have had or still does have a message board on RagingBull.And many fraudulent websites still making fraudulent claims that their stocks are being 'naked shorted' or simply pumping and dumping worthless shares in worthless shell companies use ragingbull or yahoo for fraud.
But what appears even worse is John Reed Stark and the Internet Enforcement (OIE)branch of the Securities Exchange Commission pretending they never notice a thing.Many worthless penny stock frauds that steal from Americans and remove their stolen money offshore have ragingbull.com to thank for aiding and abetting their fraud.And many insiders to these scams post deceitful messages on ragingbull.com to lure 'marks' or victims to either buy their worthless shares or be directed to a particular scam's own website or pr release as does David Patch of investigatethsec.com who incessantly posts his lies about 'naked shorting' and promotes various penny stocks there that make such claims.And so do many aliases that appear to work with him.
And while Agora Inc.has its own dailyreckoning website and message board and agoracom also has message boards for its mainly questionable penny stock client companies where they can moniter and censor critics or remove their posts,I believe Agora connected individuals have used ragingbull as well to tout their fraudulent penny stock scams.In fact I do see David Patch connected with Agora Inc. by way of his past connections to GENEMAX that Davidson was CEO of at the time of its pump and dump when many messages were being posted on ragingbull's GMXX message board in 2002.And when NAANSS was closed down it was located in the same Blaine, Washington office that GMXX had been located out of.
Examples of two well known penny stock critics on ragingbull who were censored by ragingbull or ragingbull staff are athena_sword and wolfblitzzer0.Do a google search of either and add 'ragingbull' to your google search and see what you come up with.Below is from my latest alias 'endoscam' that contines or continued to expose the ongoing fraud on ragingbull's Endovasc message boards,EVSC and EVSD.
Warning,I lost 100% of my investment in EVSC through phoney 'reverse split',fraudulent claims of 'Phase III' FDA development when not even a 'Phase II' was ever planned,only an ilegal pump and dump from a Charles Schwab account,my own broker who then let the company and private clients send their money offshore as best as I can figure.It may have included money laundering but it was illegal pump and dump and James Dale Davidson promoted it with lies through his Agora Inc.'s Vantage Point mail fraud and cyber fraud op.And the ragingbull message board also played a key role in luring suckers in.Coincidence ?
Also,it must be remembered that this same type of mass mailing and internet disinformation is what Davidson used to spread the lie the Bill Clinton killed Vince Foster.Davidson's own Beltway black psyops that makes him a darling of the Beltway's far right was and also is still applied to defraud Anmericans through Agora INC.AND ITS VARIOUS OFFICIAL AND UNOFFICIAL TENTACLES AS WELL AS RAGINGBULL.COM
I discovered by putting my name and email on the internet about Bellador Group of Kuala Lumpur, www.belladorgroup.com, who Dwight CANTRELL,who replaced 'Dr.David P Summers as head of the penny stock pump and dump fraud known as Endovasc,and Robert Johnson even made a post 911 deal with in Kuala Lumpur,ALL WITHOUT A SINGLE NOTICE TO INVESTORS NOR A SINGLE MENTION ANYWHERE IN PRS OR IN SEC FILINGS !! THE SEC THEN IS IN MANY WAYS COMPLICIT IN ILLEGAL STOCK
ACTIVITIES IN KUALA LUMPUR OR DUBAI,ETC.,POST 911 ? EVEN MONEY LAUNDERING MAY BE INVOLVED. WHY ?!
Below is a direct link to the EVSC RAGINGBULL PENNY STOCK FRAUD BOARD FOR THOSE WHO ARE CURIOUS.YOU CAN SEE ALSO POSTS FROM INSIDERS TO THE FRAUD AND MY EMAIL TO RAGINGBULL ABOUT THEIR BLOCKING OF MY WARNING POSTS AND ALLOWING ONGOING FRAUD ON RAGING BULL AS WELL.
Tony Ryals
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EVSC&read=17699
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Dear Ragingbull Fraud Abuse Investigator.Here is yet another post from'gil836' who acts as if he owns the RB EVSC and EVSD boards.How many inside tout aliases against me,one defrauded investor ? And yet you think I should be prohibited from posting and only someone who admits having the most evsd shares to dump besides Dwight Cantrell should be allowed to stay on the two boards they use for insider tout fraud and I who was defrauded have to sit helplesslt as they lie to tout on your website to defraud others !?
Is this really what you are allowing ? How do you justify that ? Are you sure that meangene53's ownership of evsd shares does not mean he should disclose his involvement,who he is and where and how he got them ? Do you really in light of what you know want to rig your website so they can all tout to lure more victims to rb's evsc and evsd boards ?
Also could you please look into why my posts are blocked ? You have sent no notice and Google waned me of a virus so I am notifying you and aso requesting that either I be allowed to use anothwer alias restore my original or close down the EVSC and EVSD Boards altogether.Does aiding their fraud really benefit ragingbull ?
endoscam
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By: gil1836
04 Nov 2005, 05:43 PM EST
Msg. 17693 of 17693
(This msg. is a reply to 17692 by meangene53.)
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When I saw his post, I immediately reported it to RB ....
hopefully, if we keep doing that, they will take him
off... eom
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Hold; LT Rating- Hold)
By: meangene53
31 Oct 2005, 08:01 PM EST Msg. 17621 of 17692
(Msg. is a reply to 17620 by slowbone.)
Good job Slowbone.I believe the increase is the same as last
year.Around 400,000,000 million shares.I see that Dwight Cantrell is
the only member of the board with more NDC series stock than
me.Anybody interested in going to the shareholders meeting?They are
very boring unless you plan to connect with somebody.Although MSFT
can get a little wild.Thanks again Slowbone.MG
By: meangene53
31 Oct 2005, 04:42 PM EST
Msg. 17605 of 17692
(This msg. is a reply to 17593 by kingoraschmuck.)
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Hey King,where did you see the info about registering 500 million
shares?If they send out a proxy vote for the share approval I'll vote
to pass it.The reason why is Endovasc needs to assign so many shares
to each of their cos.Example,50 million to Liprostin Inc. and 40
million to Prostent Inc.Also,they will give each of the shareholders
shares in a forward split.They need to pass this if they are going to
partner up or sell the company for a lump sum and keep a percentage
of sales profits.One more reason to assign the shares is for a
possible IPO.This is good business.Why else would they need 500
million shares.The only thing I don't want to see is Endovasc
registering more shares for EVSD and diluting the profit margin for
us long time holders.That would be a blow where I would probably bail
on principle.I have been buying EVSD all along.I will still buy under
a dime.I don't need anymore but as you can see Endothil is a hit with
great sales and $2 million coming by 4-31-06.MG
By: meangene53
03 Nov 2005, 07:03 PM EST Msg. 17679 of 17692
(Msg. is a reply to 17678 by kingoraschmuck.)
Where's endobutt?Did some TOS reports get him tossed?Man that gut was
nervous noise.MG
By: different_drummer0
04 Nov 2005, 09:59 AM EST Msg. 17686 of 17692
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
OT: StockGate: Ironic Victim
An Irony That Had To Happen: Refco Now Victimized By Naked Short Sellers
November 4, 2005 (FinancialWire) It had to happen some day.
Buyins.net is reporting the current busted king of short sellers,
Refco (NYSE: RFX; OTC: RFXCQ), has itself gone on the Regulation SHO
list, signifying excessive fails-to-deliver, or the proliferation of
counterfeit shares as it continues to twist in the wind despite
efforts of institutions such as Goldman Sachs (NYSE: GS) and others
to help the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission scramble to
resolve the crisis.
By: meangene53
03 Nov 2005, 05:42 PM EST Msg. 17674 of 17692
(Msg. is a reply to 17670 by kingoraschmuck.)
I think anybody who contacts Rob Johnson will have a good repoire
with him.He's a wise gentleman and I wouldn't dare insult him by
fishing for info.I feel I have the skinny for myself and I can be
patient.King,give him a call and if he's available he'll talk your
head off.He'll also kindly let you know if your asking for protected
info which could bring in the SEC if someone like endobutt
complained.But do call it's free.Rob Johnson can tell you everything
he tells me and can answer only certain questions.Let him answer your
questions,you'll feel better getting answers first hand.I think if we
sit back and ponder what is going on we'll see that business activity
is improving.Our CEO is attending events that will show our wares.We
know Endothil is a huge hit or Basic Research wouldn't be sponsoring
hotrods,weightlifters and bodybuider forums and large spreads in
several mags.One last thing I've forgot to mention is David Summers
is still dumping and if anybody is trying to manipulate the stock it
would be him.Summers does not have to file a form-4 when he sells his
EVSC/EVSD stock.That ended 2 years after his indictment.MG
By: kingoraschmuck
03 Nov 2005, 05:11 PM EST Msg. 17670 of 17692
(Msg. is a reply to 17669 by meangene53.)
Good strong points Meangene. You seem to have a good relation with
Rob Johnson. Any chance of you talking with him and kind of getting
the "skinny"?
King
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Dear rb,
i tried to send this to you last night but although i am continually
harrassed on rb by insiders to the evsc 'company' that ripped me off i
don't bother you about that but explain that in my original email below
which may have not reached you,i didn't even know where to sensd to tell
you that evsc touters had organised a hate campaign against me victim of
their scams. I plan to write more about internet fraud and as i say it
is not rb's fault but neither should rb be deceived into aiding and
abetting fraudsters who use rb for pump and dump ops that are
illegal.thank you for your consideration.
i have posts below of meangene's,leader122fl, et.al.'s insulting and
threatening posts to me and he is an insider to evsc.do i need send you
urls or does this give you an idea they are harrassing me only i
wouldn't bother you about it under other circumstances.
sincerely
endoscam
By: meangene53
06 Sep 2005, 05:36 PM EDT
Msg. 709 of 728
(This msg. is a reply to 707 by endoscam.)
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You said it not me Dikhead!!!EOM
By: endoscam
06 Sep 2005, 05:29 PM EDT Msg. 707 of 728
(Msg. is a reply to 705 by meangene53.)
it's onlydropped 99%+ since then but that includes the boiler room
Belladorgroup etc. since then - NOT 'NAKED SHORTING' NOR 'OVERSOLD
POSITION' AS YOU AND ATTORNEY O'QUINN FRAUDULENTLY CLAIMED.
Is that the clinic where you get your check-ups Tony?EOM
By: meangene53
06 Sep 2005, 05:26 PM EDT
Msg. 706 of 728
(This msg. is a reply to 703 by endoscam.)
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By: meangene53
06 Sep 2005, 05:04 PM EDT
Msg. 700 of 729
(This msg. is a reply to 695 by endoscam.)
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You're messed up Tony.Somebody post rhetoric and you buy into it not
knowing whether they are lies or not.Have you ever researched a
stock?Who told you about ENDV?He/she is the one you should be whining
to.By the way,yes your responsible for knowing if a post is bullschit
or not if you're going to throw your money down.I'm sure O'Quinn and
Reilly sit around and discuss if meangene53's claim was
fraud.NOT!!!!When did I ever make a claim of fraud endobutt?That's
the way you operate,not me.I move on when I've lost.I don't stay on a
message board and make a fool of myself.DIKHEAD!!!
y: meangene53
29 Aug 2005, 03:31 PM EDT
Msg. 638 of 729
(This msg. is a reply to 636 by endoscam.)
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See here?Now,who are you talking to?Who is you?Dikhead!!!
By: meangene53
23 Aug 2005, 04:57 PM EDT
Msg. 607 of 729
(This msg. is a reply to 604 by gil1836.)
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His posts remind me of someone who was the end result of a drunken ****.
By: meangene53
01 Sep 2005, 02:13 AM EDT
Msg. 666 of 729
(This msg. is a reply to 665 by endoscam.)
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Your posts read like somebody puked the alphabet on my screen.Do you
ever read what you type?What a MESS!!!Keep working it Tony.What a
waste of life.Do you want to borrow some money to get back in the
game?HA!HA!HA!HA!HAAAAAA!Dikhead!!!!!
By: meangene53
12 Sep 2005, 07:52 PM EDT Msg. 16322 of 16340
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
You attack every poster that shows up Tony and I only attack you.I'm
willing to come out and show my face.How about you?Hell with it,your
easy enough to find.
By: leader122fl
12 Sep 2005, 08:25 PM EDT Msg. 16332 of 16340
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
I have already made a formal complaint on ENDO and they stated that
they are in the process of review, and will take appropriate
measures. With that said I would suggest everyone to continue the
complaints and make sure that they are aware that he will continue to
change his moniker. That is how they will remove his msg's and
continue to review additional complaints to identify Tony as he
continues to change his moniker. Unfortunately putting Endo on ignore
is no longer effective, and will NOT resolve the issue. Stalking,
slander, defamation, and harassment are not within the RB guide lines.
(Voluntary Disclosure: ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
To: webmaster@ragingbull.com
Subject: In my defense on EVSC board vs. meangene53,leader122fl,et.al.
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:04:01 -0500
Dear ragingbull,
This should be sent to whoever reads 'tos' complaints in my (endoscam's)
defense.As I am not one likely to complain to you regardless of how
bullying or abusive others are of me I am taking time unfortuneatly to defend myself from penny stock touters who apparently are
complaining to you officially about me.I lost $60,000 on Endovasc
alone or 100% of my investment.But do I come to you and complain ?
No,I don't,even though I was lied to by prs posted on rb and insiders
using the various Endovasc message boards on rb over the years as
their own personal scam websites as I'm sure you must know from much
experience and many message boards, happens.
But the message boards are for sharing information ideally rather
than making them only for insiders who may be tempted to 'fib' just a
little bit for personal gain at the expense of legitimate
investors.And if I have or take any legal recourse it should be
directed at those who directly defrauded me and not a message board
host.Same goes for those who I have every reason to believe are
insiders on rb's evsc board to go
and file a legal complaint against me if they have cause AND NOT AGAINST RB.
So below are typical posts from me and from 'them'.Stock touting is a
big business so and most defrauded investors either lost less than
me or are too embarrassed to admit it and fight it.And the EVSC
'FOLKS'
have even lost their Stanford patent in the last few months because
of my complaints to Stanford so they are mad at me and I'm glad.No
one else will be defrauded by that patent they never deveoped but
only used as a 'hook' to lure suckers like me into their scam,IMHO.
I HAVE DISCVERED ENOUGH ABOUT INTERNET AND AND PENNY STOCK FRAUD TO
WRITE A BOOK AND MAY YET DO SO.But I have no bone to pick with you.
Sure I'd love to have rb tell me whether the touters are company
insiders but I already know from years of observation they have
insider knowledge.And unfortuneatly it is not your responsibility but
the SEC's or state regulators,just as it should not be your
responsibility to censor me for touters in hopes they can lure new
'marks'.Ragingbull should be proud they are letting dissenters or
those who lost in stock scams,or poorly managed penny stocks at
best,tell their story to potentially new or naive investors who might
not know what they are getting into.
Anyway I'm tired and wish these bad jokers had not sent a complaint
to you making me have to contact you in my defense.But as you can see
below,they say they did,so I'm contacting you with samples of their
'meangene53' and 'leader122fl' and my 'endoscam' posts.
If after reading meangene53 and the newer leader122fl you think I am
worse than they are please let me know.I can't imagine how you could
however.And you may note links in my posts to articles by Tony Ryals
who has put the Endovasc scam and the 'naked short scam'(the opposite
of what rb touters claim it to be)out in the public domain.And you
know other journalists are taking interest in what he says on
indymedia about Endovasc and various insiders involved so I believe
rb should just take a neutral stand.
If indymedia isn't afraid of the big bad wolves you should not be
afraid of Endovasc et.al. and insiders who tout here and complain of
'bashers',who for all you know,could really be ripped off investors.
Sincerely,
endoscam@lycos.com
By: endoscam
12 Sep 2005, 10:41 PM EDT Msg. 16342 of 16342
(Msg. is a reply to 16341 by leader122fl.)
misleader122fl, it is insider dumping that has caused collapse of
share price,that and lieing in every pr till no credibility is
left.it is you who is comibng here with a new alias mysteriously
around the time vfin that you also tout like a favorite football team is in 'arbitration' with evsc,no doubt related to giving them more
shares to dump.the truth is you like me are an alias but it is obvious you are here to tout no doubt in order to dump shares.i am
here because i was lied to and lost 100% of my substantial investment in what turned out to be a pump and dump scam. you ever heard of
those ? they're illegal but for some reason recurring.
does your 'fl' stand for florida where vfin is located ?
By: leader122fl
12 Sep 2005, 10:23 PM EDT Msg. 16341 of 16342
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
Which is it Endo... Are we/I part of the fraud or marks of the fraudsters, you've classified me as both which is not possible.
You're starting to slip up. In addition you are rubbing EVERYONE the wrong way. Your days on RB are counting down. I feel sorry for you
because you wont be able to Manipulate the pps by your incessant bashing.
By: meangene53
12 Sep 2005, 07:46 PM EDT Msg. 729 of 731
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
If you want to stop endoscam from his personal attacks,whinning,name calling,the "KKK" usage then we all have to flood the TOS board.I sent ten TOS reports on the evsc board a couple of minutes ago.If we do nothing then it's our fault for allowing his behaviour to be flung around our boards like a mad dog.Fill out the TOS reports everyday and Lycos/RB will do some thing about endoscam.MG>
By: endoscam
12 Sep 2005, 10:22 PM EDT Msg. 731 of 731
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
fraudgene53 doesn't want the truth because that effects his use of rb
for fraud he wishes to use the board to tout to bring new suckers and
finds it more than a little inconvenient that anyone defrauded in the past by his and insiders use of it to tout here would now spend much
of their time wearning others away from evsc scam and its connections
to a scam called 'naked shorting' that was really a fraudulent lie to mask illegal pump and dump activities both onshore through accounts
at brokerages such as Schwab(I have the 'agreement')and through whatever deals with vfin etc.undisclosed to defrauded investors.
If EVSC were really in phase III as meangene and other insiders have
claimed on rb since the 1990's he would
not be here touting and money would be in EVSC account
for said purpose.Instead he chooses to spend his days as an insider
on rb touting to dump more shares even though he knows any investor
who listened to him or other evsc insiders who have used rb to tout
their have lost everything.
So those are the general outline of the facts,why don't you tell
ragingbull you have been promoting phase III for years and stealing
all investor money so it could never happen if you had FDA approval
which is just another of your lies.YOU SAID YOUI HAD FDA APPROVAL IN
THE 1990'S !!!
Where did the money go from the fraudulent reverse split ?
Want to sue me foer saying fraud ? Do it and I'll bring the
shareholder agreement to fill one Schwab account with up to 30
million shares to court with me.Unlike you,I don't lie.
By: endoscam
12 Sep 2005, 10:22 PM EDT Msg. 731 of 731
> (Msg. is a reply to by None.)
fraudgene53 doesn't want the truth because that effects his use of rb
for fraud he wishes to use the board to tout to bring new suckers and
finds it more than a little inconvenient that anyone defrauded in the
past by his and insiders use of it to tout here would now spend much of their time wearning others away from evsc scam and its connections
to a scam called 'naked shorting' that was really a fraudulent lie to
mask illegal pump and dump activities both onshore through accounts
at brokerages such as Schwab(I have the 'agreement')and through
whatever deals with vfin etc.undisclosed to defrauded investors.
If EVSC were really in phase III as meangene and other insiders have
claimed on rb since the 1990's he would
not be here touting and money would be in EVSC account for said purpose.Instead he chooses to spend his days as an insider on rb touting to dump more shares even though he knows any investor who listened to him or other evsc insiders who have used rb to tout
their have lost everything.
So those are the general outline of the facts,why don't you tell
ragingbull you have been promoting phase III for years and stealing
all investor money so it could never happen if you had FDA approval
which is just another of your lies.YOU SAID YOUI HAD FDA APPROVAL IN
THE 1990'S !!!
Where did the money go from the fraudulent reverse split ?
Want to sue me foer saying fraud ? Do it and I'll bring the shareholder agreement to fill one Schwab account with up to 30 million shares to court with me.Unlike you,I don't lie.
By: meangene53
06 Sep 2005, 05:36 PM EDT
Msg. 709 of 728
(This msg. is a reply to 707 by endoscam.)
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You said it not me Dikhead!!!EOM
By: endoscam
06 Sep 2005, 05:29 PM EDT Msg. 707 of 728
(Msg. is a reply to 705 by meangene53.)
it's onlydropped 99%+ since then but that includes the boiler room
Belladorgroup etc. since then - NOT 'NAKED SHORTING' NOR 'OVERSOLD
POSITION' AS YOU AND ATTORNEY O'QUINN FRAUDULENTLY CLAIMED.
Is that the clinic where you get your check-ups Tony?EOM
By: meangene53
06 Sep 2005, 05:26 PM EDT
Msg. 706 of 728
(This msg. is a reply to 703 by endoscam.)
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By: meangene53
06 Sep 2005, 05:04 PM EDT
Msg. 700 of 729
(This msg. is a reply to 695 by endoscam.)
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You're messed up Tony.Somebody post rhetoric and you buy into it not knowing whether they are lies or not.Have you ever researched a stock?Who told you about ENDV?He/she is the one you should be whining
to.By the way,yes your responsible for knowing if a post is bullschit
or not if you're going to throw your money down.I'm sure O'Quinn and
Reilly sit around and discuss if meangene53's claim was fraud.NOT!!!!When did I ever make a claim of fraud endobutt?That's
the way you operate,not me.I move on when I've lost.I don't stay on a
message board and make a fool of myself.DIKHEAD!!!
y: meangene53
29 Aug 2005, 03:31 PM EDT
Msg. 638 of 729
(This msg. is a reply to 636 by endoscam.)
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See here?Now,who are you talking to?Who is you?Dikhead!!!
By: meangene53
23 Aug 2005, 04:57 PM EDT
Msg. 607 of 729
(This msg. is a reply to 604 by gil1836.)
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His posts remind me of someone who was the end result of a drunken ****.
By: meangene53
01 Sep 2005, 02:13 AM EDT
Msg. 666 of 729
(This msg. is a reply to 665 by endoscam.)
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Your posts read like somebody puked the alphabet on my screen.Do you
ever read what you type?What a MESS!!!Keep working it Tony.What a
waste of life.Do you want to borrow some money to get back in the
game?HA!HA!HA!HA!HAAAAAA!Dikhead!!!!!
By: meangene53
12 Sep 2005, 07:52 PM EDT Msg. 16322 of 16340
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
You attack every poster that shows up Tony and I only attack you.I'm
willing to come out and show my face.How about you?Hell with it,your
easy enough to find.
By: leader122fl
12 Sep 2005, 08:25 PM EDT Msg. 16332 of 16340
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
I have already made a formal complaint on ENDO and they stated that they are in the process of review, and will take appropriate measures. With that said I would suggest everyone to continue the
complaints and make sure that they are aware that he will continue to change his moniker. That is how they will remove his msg's and continue to review additional complaints to identify Tony as he continues to change his moniker. Unfortunately putting Endo on ignore is no longer effective, and will NOT resolve the issue. Stalking, slander, defamation, and harassment are not within the RB guide lines.
(Voluntary Disclosure: ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
By: endoscam
12 Sep 2005, 09:15 PM EDT Msg. 16336 of 16340
(Msg. is a reply to 16333 by endoscam.)
one might ask why Judge Ken Reilly of EVSC doesn't act on mr.ryals if he has any complaints.
By: endoscam
12 Sep 2005, 09:18 PM EDT Msg. 16337 of 16340
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
OR HOW ABOUT 'FAMED ATTORNEY O'Quinn'who Mr.Ryals says
EITHER COVERED UP OR WAS DUPED BY EVSC'S CANTRELL, SUMMERS,JOHNSON ET.AL. WHO LIED ABOUT 'NAKED SHORTING' AS A RUSE TO CONCEAL ILLEGAL
PUMP AND DUMP AND POSSIBLE MONEY LAUNDERING.Does your attorney have a
come back for that ? Didn't think so.
By: endoscam
12 Sep 2005, 09:20 PM EDT Msg. 16338 of 16340
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
Has Texas Attorney John O'Quinn covered up stock fraud and money
laundering ?
http://cvilleindymedia.org/newswire.php?story_id=1788
By: endoscam
12 Sep 2005, 09:22 PM EDT Msg. 16339 of 16340
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
why don't you go cry to o'quinn and reilly misleader rather than
trying to intimidate posters posting the truth about penny scams on
rb ?
By: endoscam
12 Sep 2005, 09:23 PM EDT Msg. 16340 of 16340
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
why don't you sue sec and royal gazette for their statements re vfin ?
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The Byrnes,John Edwards,Attorney O'Quinn,Swift Boat Vets,Money Laundering
http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/11241/index.php
To SEC : James Angel,Georgetown University,Aids Penny Stock Fraud
http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/10850/index.php
Bill Bonner :Agora Inc,Baltimore has aided penny stock fraud
http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/11282/index.php
Agora Inc.meets George Tenet in New Orleans,touts penny stock for CIA
http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/11325/index.php
Agora Inc., Bill Bonner , Porter Stansberry , Jim Davidson and fraud
http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/11382/index.php
And what is his and his many allied aliases punishment for deceiving and defrauding RB's message board readers about 'naked shorting' being the reason for his Jag Media and many other penny stock pumps and dumps being a victim of 'naked short selling' and making outrageous claims about the companies,(both Jag Media and others with JAG NOTES infamous 'rumors' among other fraud tactics),values or potentials on the ragingbull's jagh and other RB message boards ?
He is given a contract with Lycos as a reward for the work,(fraud),he and unidentified Jag Media Holdings 'touts' on RB and James Dale Davidson of Agora Inc.connected David Patch who is also allied with Gary Valinoti and 'Bob O'Brien' of ncans.net who is probably James Dale Davidson of Agora Inc.and the National Taxpayers Union or connected to Davidson and uses the same naked short fraud claim to promote Patrick Byrne's OSTK and NFI on Yahoo,AMONG OTHERS.
BELOW IS RAGINGBULL'S NON-ANSWER TO ME ABOUT WHY THEY CUT MY POSTING THAT WARNED OTHERS OF THE NAKED SHORT SCAM THAT IS USED TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM ILLEGAL PUMP AND DUMP ACTIVITIES AND POSSIBLY MONEY LAUNDERING WITH U.S., PARTICULARLY EVSC SHARES,IN TERRORIST SUSPECT KUALA LUMPUR.ALSO MY MORE DETAILED REPLIES TO THEM ARE HERE FOLLOWED BY THE CONTRACT I MENTIONED BETWEEN JAG MEDIA AND LYCOS TO PROMOTE STOCK TOGETHER.
NOTE THE CYBER BULLYING I DISCUSS AND THREATS TO MY LIFE BY ALIASES THEY PROTECT WENT RIGHT OVER THEIR HEADS OF COURSE.THIS IS SERIOUS MONEY TO RAGINBGULL AND THEY PLAN TO DO THEIR PART TO PROTECT THE PENNY STOCK MAFIA AND CYBERFRAUD OPS THEY AID AND ABET.
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DEAR RAGINGBULL,
As a follow up to what I just sent you note this post from
'slowbone',who changed his alias after I put his post about boiler
room experience on world wide internet(do a google search ragingbull
slowbone meangene53).WHY DOES YOUR LYCOS SEARCH ENGINE NOT DO THAT
AUTOMATICALLY ?,YOU WOULD CUT RAGINGBULL MESSAGE BOARD FRAUD TO NEAR
0 IF YOU DID.Wouldn't you like to cut ragingbull fraud to near 0? But
look, he just applies for a new alias and is much more cautious and
less touting than before.And note 'meangene53' has stopped posting at
least for now.
Unless of course he just got a new alias like 'slowbone'.So how come
you never catch the people working your boards for fraud all thse
years and only manage to censor their critics ? Are you like keystone
cops or do you have any special connections to some of those who run
the scams on ragingbull such as Gary Valinoti of Jag Media Holdings
who you even suigned a stock promotion deal with ?
You may note also that athena_sword appears to hve been correct about
ADOT WHO YOU ALSO PREVENTED FROM WARNING OTHERS ABOUT RB MESSAGE
BOARD SCAMS.
Why are you attacking me who can prove to you in a minute that I was
defrauded by Dwight Cantrell,ROBERT Johnson,David P Summers,Judge Ken
Reilly,JAMES Dale Davidson,ET.AL.of Endovasc,using your message board
which is their only 'business'and allow them to continue their fraud
here ?
I will continue to do my articles on fraud being perpetrated here
until it ends or the mafia you support through ignorance of not do
manage to shoot me or machete me or whatever.I as a reporter of the
fraud I have endued on internet and particularly ragingbull am
however always willing and glad to quote you verbatim in my writing.I
find it amusing you all appear afraid to just use your reall names so
all your criticisms about dishonesty really apply more so to you than
to me.Why doesn't the head of ragingbull just speak up and I'll quote
him,with my comments added,verbatim.You guys afraid to leave the dark
alley of ragingbull with Gary Valinoti and step into the world wide
web and Google light ? No wonder you could never compete in the world
of search engines your whole 'business' here is 'anti search,just as
those you host here who claim to be 'anti-naked short selling' are
really pump and dump con artists including ragingbull' business
partner Gary Valinoti who was recently exosed for dumping undeclared
shares all the while he fraudulent claimed Jag Media Holding or JAGH
was a victim of 'naked shorting'.
So if you made a deal with him who has allowed o many insiders to lie
on JAGH RB message board how much can we who wer defrauded by
'companies' touting here trust your integrity ? Below is confession
from slowbone about alias change to
Sincerely
Tony Ryals
By: greenrabbit_7
09 Nov 2005, 10:36 AM EST
Msg. 17753 of 17818
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Slowbone is dead, thanks to endoscam. I have changed my moniker
because the infamous Tony Ryals is posting some statements I made a
while back under my last incarnation. These statements are posted on
another site. Naturally, he's twisting things around and inserting
words I never said. Rather than taking him to court, I will now be
know as greenrabbit_7.I'm sure you will now do your duty and remove
this confesssed boiler room tout from the boards.One down and all
those Valinoti and thus ragingbull connected insider touts to go.TOO
FUNNY,TOO SAD,TOO FRAUDULENT.
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Dear ragingbull,
Then if my account has been deactivated for multiple aliases why do
you allow James Dale Davidson of Agora Inc. who gawd knows has a big
enough cyberfraud operation around the world with more scammy
internet sites than can be counted and David Patch and his gang, who
use multiple aliases to run penny stock scams on ragingbull FOR
YEARS ?! Or haven't you noticed ? It is no secret he promoted James
Dale Davidson's pump and dump of Genemax and then they all
fraudulently claimed the shares they dumped with RB's help was
really,ha ha,'naked shorting' from Charles Schwab et.al..Do you think
Ragingbull aiding fraud either from ignorance or collusion is cute ?
Do you believe knowingly hosting penny stock pump and dump ops is not
a fraud and a crime ?And what about 'burniere' who also has done the
same thing and also has touted the CMKX pump and dump as well as
Genemax and Jag Media holdings that also claimed to be a victim of
'naked shorting' ?
Have you noticed his appearance on gmxx board whenever I post and his
threats and that everyone knows this probable Canadian fraudster is
Davidson connected and CMKX fraud nmining stock connected and has had
many aliases as well.And he was claiming Genemax was being 'naked
shorted' as James Dale Davidson,Brent Pierce,and Grant Atkins ran the
pump and dump from Blaine,Wshington years ago.What's so peculiar is
that you are the ones who could stop all this fraud but instead are
more concerned to prevewnt me from warning others on Ragingbull.Why ?
Have you investigated SIRIUS who has maintained his alias while
touting the frauds Genemax and Jag Media Holdings and raged hate
against Moslems
and 'liberals' on your 'gov' board ? And this group always hints they
can get people's aliases removed here as if they have some inside
track to Ragingbull management .Why is that ? Or you even concerned
that David Patch and Rsagingbull's 'business' partner Gary Valinoti
of Jag Notes have been lying to your readers for years about 'naked
shorting' in order to defraud them ?
To the contrary of your claim it is this cyber fraud mafia you are
hosting here who are running scams and it is me both on Yahoo and
Ragingbull who has been threatened by them even hints of a
'machete'.Yes your little mafia here who you protect also work the
Yahoo scam boards as well and yes the pyump and dumps you host and
probable money laundering from unaudited shares IS big business and
criminal business.
Have you ever considered that if the mafia you host here did not work
so hard to get any alias I post under removed that maybe I would not
have to apply for another account to to try prevent them from
defrauding others with their fraudulent lies here ? Do you realise I
lost 100% of my substantial investment in James Dale Davidson
et.al.'s Endovasc fraud by way of listening to the insididers who
fraudulently tout with your approval on Endovasc ? Do you realise
David Patch is both Davidson of Agora Inc.,Baltimore and Gary
Valinoti of Jag Media Notes connected ? And do you realise Ragingbull
has actually signed a contract with Gary Valinoti in 2002 or 2003 to
work togather to promote penny stocks ?
It appears you want to draw suckers such as myself in as long as we
are good and useful suckers but when and if we catch on to the fraud
here and to the long time aliases you aid and abet to carry it out
then you work with them to cover up.Is that about the size of it ? Or
you going to get rid of David Patch and thoso associated aliases of
his now and Mark Faulking liar and no longer allow them to tout pump
and dump scams as victims of 'naked shorting' then ?
Are you going to close the Endovasc board where only insiders to the
fraud now tout since you got rid of me ? Or do you want them to
defraud others which is why you are preventing me from warning others
? I have proof of my 100% losses there and that it was not the result
of 'naked shorting'but of a Schwab account filled with up to '30
million shares' and James Dale Davidson who is connected to the
supposed 'anti-naked short'penny stock touters you host here promoted
through Agora Inc.with lies as your gang here touted simultaneously
both Genemax and Endovasc.
I for the first time was able to draw attention to the fraud occuring
here because of the wolfblitzzer0 alias.I actually believed I was
doing Ragingbull a favor by drawing some attention to the boards but
also by drawing some attention to the frauds that had been going down
here for years.My interest in UCSY was and is the transfer agent
Alexander Walker who has been involved in numerous penny stock frauds
that have been used to rob Americans and send the stolen money
offshore,Harvard Scientific, Bret Energy,Endovasc,Sulpco,UCSY,ARE
JUST A FEW THAT COME TO MIND...
Now as Americans or whoever you are who make a good living in
America,I would like to ask you how you can even live with yourselves
knowing you havce aided Endovasc to defraud and deceive using your
website ? How in this post 911 era are you not as shocked as I am
knowing that their promotion here has allowed the boiler room
Bellador Group to dump shares on defrauded Americans and others
through their Kuala Lumpur and Dubai operations ? Are you sure what
you are allowing has not aided both money laundering and or support
for underworld and terrorist activities ?
If you are more interested in ending the fraud on Ragingbull I know a
lot and would be glad to help,but you are the one who really knows
what is happening here and it should be you who discloses it to the
SEC and others who may not even know there losses here were due to
cyberfraud orchestrated by alaises I've mentioned and many more.The
paradox is that Lycos began as a search engine and ended as a dark
allay where criminals fingd a home. Why ?You have the technology to
make the records all very searchable even conducive to google
searches yet you maintain Ragingbull as a dark alley for fraud and
refuse to use Lycos search engine tech or anyone else's for those who
might wish to use your archives to search for past and present penny
stock criminal activities occuring here.Why ?
So why not simply return my 'wolfblitzzer0' alias to me ? As you know
if I can't have access to posting here I cannot even see old posts
and do continuing research into this old and ongoing fraud Endovasc
and its ragingbull board have sucked me into.I really thought for a
while I would finally be able to maintain one.Also do a google search
of 'yahoo mafia cabby guatemala machete'.And no it does not matter
those threats occured on Yahoo these peole whoever they are are using
both Ragingbull and Yahoo for there criminal stock fraud.And it must
be quite lucrative to attrat people who will threaten the lives of
those they robbed in order to try and shut them up.Why do you allow
this why are you not outraged as I am ? Does that mean you see your
economic interests allied with this internet mafia who uses
RagingBull as hubs for their frauds rather than to the 'small
investor' who falls victim to them on RB and or Yahoo ?
So why would I need 'multiple aliases',don't I just post under one
one unless your mafia removes that one that I use to warn others ?
Are you then going to close the Endovasc board ? I believe all this
in the public record now opens you up for seriuos litigation if you
continue to aid and abet insiders to penny stock fraud.It is become
increasingly apublic knowledge and you can no longer pretend you
don't know who David Patch is what he does on RB to promote penny
stock scams and defraud your readers here.And it is now public record
that Ragingbull has direct unethicl connections at best to Gary
Valinoti of Jag Media Holdings who in turn has connections to both
David Patch who virtually runs the 'anti-naked shorting' fraud on
your website and uses it to direct potential marks to
investigatethesec' etc.
So for my part stop stalking my computer which belongs to a public
internet cafe by the way and stop blocking or harrassing me and
instead stop the fraud on ragingbull and close down the ragingbull
Endovasc board which is like so many on ragingbull aiding and
abetting fraud.You lie outright by singling me out as one who uses
'mulitple alioases' like I'm some kind of crook rather than a
defrauded investor'.And you know for a fact you allow the real
criminal to really use multiple aliases here.
You may do a google search of 'tony ryals ncans naanss'if yiou really
want to know what is going on.And you will see that under tony ryals
guatemala cabby machete',the kind of ragingbull 'clients'you really
serve.They are real, criminal some with Belytway connections.Are you
proud ? You shouldn't be.
Sincerely,
Tony Ryals
Dear RagingBull ,AGAIN
by Tony Ryals Tuesday November 15, 2005 at 01:49 PM
endoscam@lycos.com
Dear RagingBull,
The following was posted on offshorebusiness.com along with Gary Valinoti's conviction or settlement with the SEC for dumping undeclared shares and will be part of a new article I am writing where search engines really work,which is not on Lycos or ragingbull anywhere,I'm sorry to say.And all the while Valinoti was touting his worthless JAG MEDIA HOLDINGS SHARES ON RAGINGBULL.COM.Why and Why did you all who entered into business with him not notice ?
No wonder the frauds who operate on RB with impunity are able to get the defrauded who would complain as I have am removed to bring in the new 'marks' to defraud them.Are you proud ?And like I've said I am glad even anxious to quote anything RagingBull has to say in its defense regarding business deals with Gary Valinoti who has ran the 'anti-naked shorting' campaign along with David Patch and his MANY RB aliases here.Is David Patch so good a ragingbull scamster you cannot catch him and SIRIUS and the related group of aliases they use or who are part of the RAGINGBULL MESSAGE BOARD FRAUD TEAM ? Have you noticed the rabid hate of 'moslems' and arabs and 'liberals' SIRIUS posts on RB gov board between his scammy Jag Media Holdings TOUTS ? How many aliases does he really have ?
WHY COULDN'T YOU stop their fraudulent tout claims,most particlularly the 'naked short' fraud claim to divert naive investor attention away from massive penny stock dumping and probable money laundering for so many penny stock pumps and dumps here? Are you proud to have helped the Endovac fraud team to run a boiler room scam with unaudited shares in Kuala Lumpur through Bellador Group with its connections to Dubai ? In a post 911 era where we are all supposed to be concerned about aiding money laundering and possible terrorist fund raising through stocks,particularly penny stock operations,how can you live with yourselves ?
I 'invested' in EVSC specifically because of the Stanford patent it has since returned after having used it for maximum fraud here TOUTING AND DUMPING.And it was supposed to be a 'Texas biotech', NOT TO LOSE EVERYTHING INVESTORS INVESTED IN A BOILER ROOM DEAL IN KUALA LUMPUR,OR DUMPING FROM A 'SELECT CLIENTS'CHARLES SCHWAB ACCOUNT AFTER A JAMES DALE DAVIDSON AGORA INC.FRAUDULENT PROMOTION THAT ALSO MADE USE OF RAGINGBULL IN THIS FRAUD.I
I noted once a 'jddavidson911'alias was removed immediately within hours after it appeared on RagingBull,that was proof for me that the PENNY STOCK AND POLITICAL fraud Davidson who made much use of RB for penny stock fraud over the years and or Agora Inc.have eyes and ears here still.
This is a bad joke,right ? Do you plan to end David Patch's and Jag Notes, or JAG MEDIA HOLDINGS SCAMS ON RB IN THE NEAR FUTURE OR CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM OR LOOK THE OTHER WAY AND PRETEND YOU DO NOT SEE ?!Or pretend those who try to expose them,or were derfrauded by them,are the criminals ?
Sincerely
Tony Ryals
The Lycos RagingBull & Jag Media Holdings connection
By will the fraud never end ? on 11/7/2005 9:32:50 PM
E-mail: endoscam@lycos.com
Lycos and Ragingbull 's Jag Media Holdings connection
The link below is a google cache of a Jag Media Holdings and Lycos RagingBull contract that color highlights 'lycos
ragingbull massachusetts jag media ',but I post the entire contract here for others to see there is a Lycos ragingbull.com and Jag Media Holdings connection.
Jag Notes of Jag Media Holdings apppears to have involved itself over the years with unethical if not illegal touting of stocks whether it has had them as clients or simply has people in the background who decide and might benefit from touting certain stocks.
Someone like 'hunter' or 'jurisper' might be able to draw up a larger list but two stocks that come to mind recently are Charles Schwab the day before the London bombing with the false rumor the Schwab would be bought out by UBS or some Hong Kong bank I believe and then coincidentally but with less impact of inducing an upward price spiral was 'Bob O'Brien' and his NCANS' NFI coincidentally that jag notes touted with the 'rumor' of a buy out by Warren Buffett !! Too bad the U.S.does not have an SEC or someone would investigate.
One thing unclear to me is what does this mean ? I always thought Lycos' ragingbull.com was just a message board service that had no business or economic incentive to promote or tout any stock although it is true they have a 'Lycos 50' which is a group of stocks they do promote.Are they paid by those companies to be in the 'Lycos 50' ? Would this cause a conflict of interest in running an unbiased stock messsage board site ?
Also Lycos RagingBull must know Mark Faulk of 'faulkingtruth' and David Patch of investigatethesec.com is on board on their penny scam 'message boards' including if not particularly on the Jag Media Holdings or 'JAGH' ragingbull.com message board fraudulently claiming to be a victim of 'naked shorting' even though we now know the SEC has cited or slapped the hand of its former CEO Gary L.Valinoti for dumping unreported shares !!
And it shouldn't be forgotten that 'Bob O'Brien' implicated him in an interview with WSJ's Carol Remond of being at least loosely connected with ncans.net.And the ragingbull jagh message board is where I first heard of the February 8 ad or letter re 'naked shorting and SS investments' in stocks to be placed in the Washington Post on February 8 the following day.
This is very strange to me and I never knew Lycos Ragingbull
had made a deal or contract that apparently relates to promoting stocks of Lycos and Jag Media's tout clients on ragingbull.com.
And again David Patch after aiding James Dale Davidson et.al. in his illegal pump and dump and fraudulent claim of GMXX or Genemax as a victim of 'naked shorting' in 2002-2003 has done everything but sleep on the ragingbull.com jagh message board for years.Why is that and why is Dave Patch 'Bob O'Brien' and NCANS connected and also James Dale Davidson and GMXX connected and also Jag Media Holdings connected ? Does anyone have a clue ? And why has ragingbull and Lycos not sent David Patch and his investigatethesec.com and Mark Faulk and his faulkingtruth.com packing years ago for touting obviously illegal pump and dump scams on Lycos' RagingBull as victims of 'naked short selling' ? Does anybody know ?
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CONTENT AGREEMENT
This Agreement, dated as of February 14, 2002 (the "Effective Date"),
is made by and between Lycos, Inc., a Virginia corporation with a principal
place of business at 400-2 Totten Pond Road, Waltham, MA 02451 ("Lycos"), and
JAG Company Voice LLC, a Delaware limited liability company with a principal
place of business located at 6865 S.W. 18th Street, Suite B13, Boca Raton, FL
33433 ("Company").
Recitals
WHEREAS Lycos and its wholly owned subsidiaries are the owners or licensees of
certain Web services (collectively, the "Lycos Services"), which are accessible
through numerous URLs, including http://www.lycos.com (the "Lycos Site") (all sites
owned or controlled by Lycos or its wholly owned subsidiaries during the Term
geared towards users in the United States are collectively referred to as the
"Lycos Network"); and
WHEREAS Company operates a service (the "Video Service") through which Company
produces, edits and distributes for its clients (which are primarily publicly
traded companies) videos about such companies and their products and services
(each a "Video");
WHEREAS Company intends to market to its clients a package of four (4) videos
for each client ("Video Package");
WHEREAS, all the Videos and Video Packages provided by Company to Lycos pursuant
to this Agreement shall be referred to herein as the "Content"; and
WHEREAS Lycos and Company want to offer the Lycos Network users the opportunity
to view the Content.
NOW, THEREFORE, for good and valuable consideration, the receipt and sufficiency
of which are hereby acknowledged, Lycos and Company hereby agree as follows:
Terms
1. Content.
1.1 Provision of Content. At least two weeks prior to the Launch Date
(as defined in Section 1.3), Company shall make accessible to Lycos through a
unique script link all the Videos produced by Company prior to the Launch Date.
In the event that Company produces additional Videos after the Launch Date,
Company shall promptly make accessible to Lycos such additional Videos via the
method described above. Company shall provide Lycos with a contact at Company
who shall be available twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, to assist
Lycos with issues relating to the Content. Company agrees that the Content,
viewed as a whole, shall be competitive with substantially similar Content then
being offered by third parties. Company agrees that it provides to users the
Content in its own name and on its own behalf and that Company assumes any and
all liabilities that may arise from the Content. Without Lycos' prior approval,
Company shall not (i) sell or place advertisements or sponsorships in the
Content for any entity or person; (ii) sell any merchandise or other items
through the Content; or (iii) promote or conduct a contest, game or sweepstakes
through the Content.
1.2 Availability of Content on the Lycos Network. As further described
herein, Lycos shall be responsible for making the Content available on the Lycos
Network through its media player product (the "Media Player"). Lycos shall place
graphic links to the Content on the message boards located on
ragingbull.lycos.com ("Raging Bull") which is part of finance.lycos.com ("Lycos
Finance") for companies regarding which Company has provided Lycos with a Video.
The size and placement of such links shall be at Lycos' sole discretion and
initially shall be as shown in Exhibit 1.2. In addition, in Lycos' sole
discretion, Lycos shall promote and may place additional links to the Content
throughout Lycos Finance. In Lycos' sole discretion, Lycos may use portions of
the Content to create "teasers" to promote the Content or to be displayed
throughout the Lycos Network (to the extent Company's clients permit such use of
their Videos). Lycos shall retain all revenue generated by pages on the Lycos
Network on which teasers are displayed.
1.3 Launch Date. For purposes of this Agreement, the "Launch Date"
shall refer to the date on which Lycos begins to display the Content on the
Lycos Network (as defined in Section 2 below). The Launch Date shall be
determined by Lycos in its sole discretion.
2. Revenue and Fees.
2.1 Advertising. Lycos shall have the exclusive right to sell
advertising on the Media Player and Lycos shall have the right to retain all
revenue generated therefrom.
2.2 Placement Fee. For each Video Package provided by Company to Lycos,
Company shall pay Lycos the greater of (a) $3,000.00 or (b) ten percent (10%) of
the revenue received by Company for creating such Video Package. For each Video
Package, Company shall pay such fee to Lycos at such time as Company provides
the first Video in such Video Package to Lycos.
3. Lycos Video. At no additional cost to Lycos, Company shall create a Video for
Lycos. The parties shall mutually agree on the production schedule for such
Lycos Video.
4. Exclusivity. During the Term of this Agreement, Company shall not provide any
of the Content in any form or manner nor grant any license to the Content to
America Online, Inc., Yahoo! Inc., or Microsoft Corporation.
5. Licenses. Company hereby grants to Lycos a non-exclusive, non-transferable
(except as provided herein), royalty-free, worldwide license to use, publicly
display, publicly perform, transmit, distribute and reproduce the Content on the
Lycos Network and on Other Technology (to the extent Company's clients permit
such use of their Viedos) during the Term (as defined in Section 10 below)
solely for the purposes described herein so that Lycos may exercise its rights
and perform its obligations hereunder. With respect to any music contained in
the Content, prior to such use, Company shall secure, at its sole cost and
expense, and pay for, all performing, duplication and/or recording rights
licenses, if any, necessary for
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the use of such music in the method and manner herein contemplated, and shall
deliver to Lycos copies of all such licenses along with accurate music cue
sheets for all such music. Subject to the terms and conditions of this
Agreement, including Section 8.2 requiring prior written approval for any use,
Lycos hereby grants Company the right to reproduce and display the Lycos logo,
the Lycos Finance logo and the Raging Bull logo solely for the purposes
described herein and in accordance with Lycos' established trademark usage
policies and procedures. In addition, subject to the terms and conditions of
this Agreement, Company hereby grants Lycos, the right to reproduce and display
its logos, trademarks, trade names and other similar identifying material solely
for the purposes described herein and in accordance with its established
trademark usage policies and procedures. In connection with the licenses granted
hereunder, each party shall have the unilateral right to establish such quality
standards and additional terms and conditions concerning the use of its
trademarks as such party deems necessary to reasonably protect its trademarks.
Such licenses shall terminate automatically upon the effective date of
expiration or termination of this Agreement. For purposes of this Agreement,
"Other Technology" shall mean technology used in connection with the provision
of content to third parties by any technological means, whether currently
existing or developed in the future, including but not limited to internet
protocol and wireless application protocol, and to any electronic device capable
of receiving such information such as computers, cellular phones, beepers,
hand-held devices and web television, and on any subdirectories or subdomains of
such sites.
6. Representations and Warranties.
6.1 Corporate Power. Each party represents and warrants that such party
is duly organized and validly existing under the laws of the state of its
incorporation and has full corporate power and authority to enter into this
Agreement and to carry out the provisions hereof.
6.2 Due Authorization. Each party represents and warrants that such
party is duly authorized to execute and deliver this Agreement and to perform
its obligations hereunder.
6.3 Binding Agreement. Each party represents and warrants that (i) this
Agreement is a legal and valid obligation binding upon it and enforceable with
its terms, and (ii) the execution, delivery and performance of this Agreement
does not conflict with any agreement, instrument or understanding, oral or
written, to which it is a party or by which it may be bound, nor violate any law
or regulation of any court, governmental body or administrative or other agency
having jurisdiction over it.
6.4 Intellectual Property Rights. Company represents and warrants that
(i) it has the full and exclusive right to grant Lycos the licenses granted
herein and to grant or otherwise permit Lycos to use Company's intellectual
property, including, without limitation, its trademarks, service marks and
logos, as necessary for Lycos to perform its obligations and exercise its rights
under this Agreement, and Company is aware of no claims by any third parties
adverse to any of such intellectual property rights; (ii) the Content does not,
and will not, violate or infringe upon the patent, copyright, literary, privacy,
publicity, trademark, service mark or any other personal or property right of
any person, nor will same violate any legal rights of any person or entity; and
(iii) it has obtained, and paid for if necessary, all licenses, consents and
approvals relating to all Content provided by a third party that are necessary
for Lycos to perform its obligations and exercise its rights under this
Agreement, and that it is responsible for obtaining, and paying, if necessary,
for any such licenses, consents and approvals during the Term. Each party will,
at its own expense, obtain and maintain any and all governmental authorizations,
licenses, registrations and filings that may be required under any applicable
laws to execute or perform this Agreement.
The representations and warranties and covenants in this Section 6 are
continuous in nature and shall be deemed to have been given by each party at
execution of this Agreement and at each stage of performance hereunder.
6.5 DISCLAIMER. EXCEPT FOR THE FOREGOING REPRESENTATIONS AND
WARRANTIES, NEITHER PARTY MAKES ANY REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND,
EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, AS TO ANY MATTER INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, MERCHANTABILITY, NON-
INFRINGEMENT, TITLE OR OTHERWISE WHICH WOULD EXTEND BEYOND THE REPRESENTATIONS
AND WARRANTIES CONTAINED HEREIN. LYCOS WILL BE FREE FROM ANY LIABILITY FOR
DAMAGES AND LOSSES OF ANY NATURE ARISING FROM OR RELATED TO THE LACK OF
AVAILABILITY OR CONTINUITY OF THE LINKS TO THE CONTENT.
7. Indemnification; Insurance.
7.1 Indemnification. Each party agrees to indemnify and hold harmless
the other party and the other party's officers, directors, shareholders,
employees, accountants, attorneys, agents, affiliates, subsidiaries, successors
and assigns from and against any and all third party claims, damages,
liabilities, costs and expenses, including reasonable legal fees and expenses,
arising out of or related to any breach of any warranty, representation,
covenant or agreement made by the indemnifying party in this Agreement. In
addition, Company will defend, indemnify and hold harmless Lycos and its
officers, directors, shareholders, employees, accountants, attorneys, agents,
affiliates, subsidiaries, successors and assigns from and against any and all
third party claims, damages, liabilities, costs and expenses, including
reasonable legal fees and expenses, arising out of or related to (i) the
development, operation or maintenance of the Video Service and the Content; and
(ii) the use or misuse of, or reliance on, the Content by any user. The
foregoing indemnity is conditioned upon (i) prompt written notice by the
indemnified party to the indemnifying party of any claim, action or demand for
which indemnity is claimed; (ii) the opportunity for complete control of the
defense and settlement thereof by the indemnifying party; and (iii) such
reasonable cooperation by the indemnified party in the defense as the
indemnifying party may request.
7.2 Settlement. Neither party shall, without the prior written consent
of the other party, settle, compromise or consent to the entry of any judgment
with respect to any pending or threatened claim unless the settlement,
compromise or consent provides for and includes an express, unconditional
release of all claims, damages, liabilities, costs and expenses,
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including reasonable legal fees and expenses, against the indemnified party.
7.3 Insurance. For the length of the Term, Company shall cause Lycos to
be included as an "additional insured" on all of Company's relevant insurance
policies that provide coverage of any kind relating to or regarding the services
or content provided by or the goods and products sold by Company in accordance
with the terms of this Agreement. A copy of said policy and endorsement shall be
provided to Lycos on the Effective Date.
8. Press Releases and Offline Promotion.
8.1 Press Releases. No public statements concerning the existence or
terms of this Agreement will be made or released to any medium except with the
prior approval of both parties (which approval shall not be unreasonably
withheld or delayed) or as required by law.
8.2 Offline Promotion. In all of Company's promotion for the Video
Service (collectively, the "Advertising Materials") and subject to Lycos' prior
written approval, Company shall include a reference to the Lycos Site, Lycos
Finance and/or Raging Bull (the "Reference"). All References shall be at least
the same size and prominence of any similar statements or promotions for other
third parties mentioned or promoted in such Advertising Materials, and shall be
subject to Lycos prior approval. If Lycos objects to any Advertising Material
including the Reference, even if Lycos had the prior opportunity to review such
Advertising Material, Company shall use best efforts to remove the Reference
from such Advertising Material or modify the placement of the Reference to
Lycos' satisfaction.
9. Confidentiality. During the Term of this Agreement and thereafter, each party
will use and reproduce the other party's Confidential Information only for
purposes of this Agreement and only to the extent necessary for such purpose and
will restrict disclosure of the other party's Confidential Information to its
employees, consultants or independent contractors with a need to know and will
not disclose the other party's Confidential Information to any third party
without the prior written approval of the other party. Notwithstanding the
foregoing, it will not be a breach of this Agreement for either party to
disclose Confidential Information of the other party if required to do so under
law or in a judicial or other governmental investigation or proceeding, provided
the other party has been given prior notice and the disclosing party has sought
all available safeguards against widespread dissemination prior to such
disclosure. As used in this Agreement, the term "Confidential Information"
refers to: (i) the terms and conditions of this Agreement; (ii) each party's
trade secrets, business plans, strategies, methods and/or practices; and (iii)
any other information relating to either party or its business that is not
generally known to the public, including but not limited to information about
either party's personnel, products, customers, marketing strategies, services or
future business plans. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Confidential Information
specifically excludes (A) information that is now in the public domain or
subsequently enters the public domain by publication or otherwise through no
action or fault of the other party; (B) information that is known to either
party without restriction, prior to receipt from the other party under this
Agreement, from its own independent sources as evidenced by such party's
written records, and which was not acquired, directly or indirectly, from the
other party; (C) information that either party receives from any third party
reasonably known by such receiving party to have a legal right to transmit such
information, and not under any obligation to keep such information confidential;
and (D) information independently developed by either party's employees or
agents provided that either party can show that those same employees or agents
had no access to the Confidential Information received hereunder.
10. User Information. Any and all information to be provided by or gathered from
users of the Lycos Network shall be owned solely by Lycos. It is expressly
understood that to the extent that Lycos provides Company with access to its
user information database(s), all such access shall be solely so that Company
may perform its obligations under this Agreement and for no other purpose, and
all such access shall require Lycos' express approval.
11. Term. The term ("Term") of this Agreement shall commence on the Effective
Date and continue for two (2) years from the Launch Date unless terminated
earlier as provided below.
12. Termination. Either party may terminate this Agreement (a) if the other
party files a petition for bankruptcy, becomes insolvent, or makes an assignment
for the benefit of its creditors, or a receiver is appointed for the other party
or its business; (b) upon the occurrence of a material breach of a material
provision by the other party if such breach is not cured within thirty (30) days
after written notice is received by the breaching party identifying the matter
constituting the material breach; or (c) by mutual consent of the parties. Lycos
may terminate this Agreement for any or no reason on thirty (30) days written
notice, and Company may terminate this Agreement for any or no reason on sixty
(60) days written notice. In the event that this Agreement is terminated
pursuant to the prior sentence, Company shall immediately pay to Lycos any
placement fees due and payable pursuant to Section 2.2 hereof which are unpaid
as of the effective date of such termination. Lycos may terminate this Agreement
or suspend its performance under this Agreement, which termination or suspension
shall take immediate effect, if the Content violates or fails to comply with any
applicable law or regulation, or violates the rights of any third party. In
addition, if Company fails to pay to Lycos any amount due Lycos under this
Agreement when such amount is due, Lycos may terminate this Agreement
immediately upon the sending of written notice in accordance with Section 18.
13. Relationship of Parties. Company and Lycos are independent contractors under
this Agreement, and nothing herein will be construed to create a partnership,
joint venture or agency relationship between them. Neither party has authority
to enter into agreements of any kind on behalf of the other.
14. Choice of Law and Forum. This Agreement, its interpretation, performance or
any breach thereof, will be construed in accordance with, governed by, and all
questions with respect thereto will be determined by, the laws of the
Commonwealth of Massachusetts applicable to contracts entered into and wholly to
be performed within said state. Each party hereby consents to the personal
jurisdiction of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, acknowledges that venue is
proper in any state or Federal court in the Commonwealth of
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Massachusetts, agrees that any action arising out of or related to this
Agreement must be brought exclusively in a state or Federal court in the
Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and waives any objection it has or may have in
the future with respect to any of the foregoing.
15. Entire Agreement. This Agreement constitutes the entire understanding of the
parties hereto with respect to the transactions and matters contemplated hereby,
supersedes all previous agreements between the parties concerning the subject
matter, and cannot be amended except by a writing signed by authorized
representatives of both parties. No party hereto has relied on any statement,
representation or promise of any other party or with any other officer, agent,
employee or attorney for the other party in executing this Agreement except as
expressly stated herein.
16. Counterparts and Facsimile Signatures. This Agreement may be executed in
multiple counterparts, each of which shall be deemed to be an original, but all
of which together shall constitute one and the same instrument. Facsimile
signatures will be considered original signatures.
17. Limitations of Liability. EXCEPT FOR BREACHES OF SECTION 9 OR 20 HEREOF, OR
AMOUNTS PAYABLE PURSUANT TO SECTION 7 HEREOF, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY
APPLICABLE LAW, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHALL EITHER PARTY BE LIABLE TO THE OTHER
PARTY FOR INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, SPECIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES
(EVEN IF THAT PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES),
ARISING FROM PERFORMANCE UNDER OR FAILURE OF PERFORMANCE OF ANY PROVISION OF
THIS AGREEMENT (INCLUDING SUCH DAMAGES INCURRED BY THIRD PARTIES), SUCH AS, BUT
NOT LIMITED TO, LOSS OF REVENUE OR ANTICIPATED PROFITS OR LOST BUSINESS. EXCEPT
FOR BREACHES OF SECTION 9 OR 20 HEREOF OR AMOUNTS PAYABLE PURSUANT TO SECTION 7
HEREOF, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, IN NO EVENT SHALL EITHER
PARTY BE LIABLE FOR DAMAGES IN EXCESS OF THE VALUE RECEIVED OR TO BE RECEIVED BY
SUCH PARTY UNDER THIS AGREEMENT.
18. Notices. All notice required to be given under this Agreement must be given
in writing and delivered either in hand, by certified mail, return receipt
requested, postage prepaid, or by Federal Express or other recognized overnight
delivery service, all delivery charges pre-paid, and addressed:
If to Lycos: Lycos, Inc.
400-2 Totten Pond Road
Waltham, MA 02451
Attention: General Counsel
Fax No.: (781) 370-3433
If to Company: JAG Company Voice LLC
6865 S.W. 18th Street, Suite B13
Boca Raton, FL 33433
Attention: Executive Vice President
Fax No.: (561) 393-6018
All notices hereunder shall be deemed to be given or made when received (or upon
refusal of delivery).
19. Survival. All terms of this Agreement, which by their nature extend beyond
its termination, remain in effect until fulfilled and apply to respective
successors and assigns.
20. Non-Solicitation and Other Restrictions. During the Term, and for a period
of twelve (12) months thereafter, Company shall not, directly or indirectly,
hire, solicit, seek to employ, engage, or retain as an officer, employee,
consultant, or otherwise, any Lycos officer, employee or consultant of Lycos (a
"Lycos Employee") or any such person who in the preceding twelve (12) months had
been a Lycos Employee.
21. Severability. Each provision of this Agreement shall be severable from every
other provision of this Agreement for the purpose of determining the legal
enforceability of any specific provision.
22. Assignment, Binding Effect. Neither Lycos nor Company may assign this
Agreement or any of its rights or delegate any of its duties under this
Agreement without the prior written consent of the other. Notwithstanding the
foregoing, Lycos may assign this Agreement to any successor of Lycos or any
parent, affiliate, subsidiary, or other entity which is controlled by, controls
or is under common control with Lycos, and Company may assign this Agreement to
any successor of Company or any parent, affiliate, subsidiary, or other entity
which is controlled by, controls or is under common control with Company as long
as such entity is not a competitor of Lycos or any entity affiliated with Lycos.
Executed as an instrument under seal as of the date first written above:
JAG COMPANY VOICE LLC
By: /S/ Stephen J. Schoepfer
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Name: Stephen J. Schoepfer
Title: President & Chief Operating Officer
LYCOS, INC.
By: /S/ Brian D. Lucy
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Name: Brian D. Lucy
Title: CFO
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EXHIBIT 1.2
[Exhibit 1.2 of executed copy contains two (2) screen shots of initial Company
Voice placement on Lycos Finance]
----- Original Message -----
From: "support_finance_web_ls@support.lycos.com " <support_finance_web_ls@support.lycos.com>
To: "william knowles" <endoscam@lycos.com>
Subject: Re: : Report a Bug (KMM26243990V37022L0KM)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:33:14 -0500
>
> Hello,
>
> Your account(s) have been deactivated for being in violation of Raging
> Bull's Terms of Service. Multiple alias are in violation of Raging
> Bull's Terms of Service.
>
> You may view the Terms of Service at the link below:
> http://www.lycos.com/lycosinc/legal.html#Quote
>
>
> Thanks for your support of Raging Bull.
>
> Regards,
> Raging Bull Team, part of the Lycos Network
U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Litigation Release No. 19407 / September 29, 2005
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Gary L. Valinoti, Civil Action No. 1:05CV01922 (D.D.C.) (JR)
SEC Sues Former CEO and President of Jag Media Holdings, Inc. for Making Unregistered Sales and Transfers of Securities
On September 29, 2005, the Commission filed a civil injunctive action in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia against Gary L. Valinoti, the former CEO, president and chairman of the board of directors of Jag Media Holdings, Inc. ("Jag Media"), for making unregistered sales and transfers of securities of the company in violation of Section 5 of the Securities Act of 1933 ("Securities Act").
The Commission's complaint alleges that a privately-held company, of which Valinoti was an officer, reverse merged with a publicly-traded shell company in March 1999 to become JagNotes.com (subsequently renamed Jag Media). The complaint further alleges that an officer of the publicly-traded shell company arranged for 250,000 shares of the shell company to be sold to Valinoti in connection with the merger. According to the complaint, the sale of 250,000 shares to Valinoti was not registered with the Commission, as required under Section 5 of the Securities Act.
The Commission's complaint further alleges that Valinoti improperly realized $1.83 million by selling 130,000 of his 250,000 shares on the Nasdaq over-the-counter bulletin board ("OTCBB") between March and April 1999. The complaint also alleges that, between April and June 1999, Valinoti: (i) transferred 112,000 of his 250,000 shares as consideration for an ownership interest in another company; and (ii) transferred an additional 6000 shares to a public relations firm as compensation for services rendered to JagNotes.com. The sales and transfers for value, the complaint alleges, were not registered with the Commission, as required under Section 5 of the Securities Act. According to the complaint, within one year of having received the 118,000 shares from Valinoti, the transferees subsequently sold them on the OTCBB for approximately $1.1 million.