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January 31, 2005 2:27 PM PST

Sun: Patent use OK beyond Solaris project

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Sun Microsystems has begun fending off concerns that there are severe limits on how programmers may use 1,600 patents it's unfettering in conjunction with its open-source Solaris plan.

The company said last week that it would permit open-source programmers to use the patents when working on the OpenSolaris project. What several influential observers found unclear is whether programmers in other areas--most notably in Solaris competitor Linux--would have to fear legal action from Sun.

The server and software company clarified its position somewhat on Monday. "Clearly we have no intention of suing open-source developers," said Tom Goguen, head of Solaris marketing. However, he added, "We haven't put together a fancy pledge on our Web site" to that effect.

Some kind of pledge is possible, Goguen said: "We're definitely looking into what would make sense and what would make the community feel more comfortable with the patent grant we have made available."

The issue isn't a mere philosophical-legal curiosity. It could influence whether Sun technology may be incorporated into Linux and how other companies might choose to liberate their own patents. And it might help Sun burnish its reputation with open-source fans, a reputation that--despite considerable contributions of open-source software--has been tarnished by Sun's refusal thus far to make its Java technology open source.

Among those who'd like to see Sun clear up the patent situation is Dan Ravicher, executive director of the Public Patent Foundation, a group that seeks to change patent laws and overturn patents it believes were wrongly issued. Ravicher also conducted a study that found Linux could infringe as many as 283 patents, including 27 by Linux foe Microsoft.

"The legal language does not comport with what the executive intent has been," Ravicher said Friday of Sun's position. From his reading of the Community Development and Distribution License, or CDDL, that governs OpenSolaris, the only patent license Sun grants "is to practice that patent in the version of Solaris that is in Sun's release, not in any other operating system."

Others who raised concerns about Sun's patent move are Bob Sutor, vice president of standards at IBM; Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation that provided much of the legal and

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don't participate
by bit-looter January 31, 2005 6:03 PM PST
If Sun is going to have strings attached to open-source development of solaris, then I say to developers, "Don't touch it". If they want the benefit of open-source then the project must be open-source, that means no funny patent business.
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Sun is going to have strings attached
by uk_forum May 9, 2007 9:41 AM PDT
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development of solaris
by ca_forums May 10, 2007 5:25 AM PDT
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Work for nothing?
by t8 January 31, 2005 8:30 PM PST
I can understand people working for a product that is freely available to all. But if Sun can't GPL their stuff, then why would anyone be stupid enough to work for their stuff, when it is only Sun that really benefits.

As it stands now, the GPL benefits all and is especially good for the consumer and developer. Sun is trying to get that free-will and use it for their proprietry product.

Linux is moving along nicely and it would be good for Linux if Sun's stuff could be used. But Linux with or without Sun will be the best OS in the history of the world. Technically and for it's free use. Just watching it grow at it's current speed is quite astonishing.

GPL or nothing Sun. Who wants to work for nothing?

I'm sticking with Linux. Most people who love Linux like it's concept and freedom as much as it's usability. But Solaris sounds to me to be lacking in the freedom department.
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