August 24, 2006 7:40 AM PDT

Pluto: And then there were eight

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update Pluto has just been demoted.

The celestial body, long known as one of the nine planets of the solar system, will now be considered a "dwarf planet," the General Assembly of the 2006 International Astronomical Union ruled in a vote Thursday in Prague, Czech Republic.

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune will be defined as "classical planets."

Pluto

Three other bodies had been contending for planetary status as well: Ceres, the largest-known asteroid; "Xena," the nickname for 2003 UB313; and Charon, which has been considered Pluto's moon.

Ceres and "Xena" will now share "dwarf planet" status with Pluto. Charon, it has been concluded, will be grouped with "small solar-system bodies."

The IAU said in a statement on Thursday that the definition for planet is now officially "a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the Sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape and (c) has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit."

"More dwarf planets are expected to be announced by the IAU in the coming months and years,"a ccording to the IAU statement. "Currently, a dozen candidate dwarf planets are listed on IAU's dwarf planet watchlist, which keeps changing as new objects are found and the physics of the existing candidates becomes better-known."

About 2,500 members of the IAU, a community of astronomers from around the world, have been meeting since late last week to debate and vote on a series of resolutions that include definitions of solar-system bodies. The IAU General Assembly is held every three years. This session, four terrestrial bodies in particular have been the focus of the debate--the most prominent being Pluto, which was discovered in 1930.

Varying proposals from IAU members included referring to these smaller terrestrial bodies in different areas of the solar system as "planetoids" and "trans-Neptunian objects." Another proposal referred to the smaller objects as "plutonian objects." Yet another proposed the idea of a hierarchy of "planets," "dwarf planets" and "small solar-system bodies," according to the IAU. Still others wanted to keep Pluto as a planet but come up with alternatives for the other three.

IAU President Ron Ekers and other members of the IAU board are expected to hold a press conference Thursday on the final outcome of all the resolution votes in Prague.

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Bad Decision
by eek10bears August 24, 2006 8:29 AM PDT
I could write a long list of objections to this decision - but there is one very clear one - ask a school kid what they think about it.
As for the way the debate went - it started well, but then it became pure sophistry! Any decision was going to be arbitrary, lines have to be drawn somewhere.
A compromise to include Pluto, Xena and Ceres but not Charon was easy or can astronomers not do simple arithmetic? I can and here's a clue Barycentre or >50% Mass similar measurements different arbitrary line, there'd be no Planet Charon based on Mass, though personally if its round I'd have it - I'd even include Moons of other planets, but thats a whole other debate. As for the "'our Moon moving outwards and becoming a planet so what would we call it?' objection" (assuming the sun didn't expand first and we were still here several billion years from now to care)I suggest a good name would be "the Moon". I take it the "top" astronomers will now want to downgrade eighty or so elements from the periodic table because after all there are too many to learn, and some are more important than others, or how about the month of February, it acts very odd for a calendar month? Lastly the 'classical planets' are - and always will be - the Sun, the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn - find another word smartasses!
In short have as many divisions of planets as required for clarity, but astronomers are supposed to be clever people (I would have thought so but apparently not), context is a wonderful thing.
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who asked the aliens?
by n3td3v August 24, 2006 8:30 AM PDT
have we told the aliens who live there? do they read cnet? the truth is out there, somewhere.
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Clearing the neighborhood
by gpskratz August 24, 2006 8:54 AM PDT
If Pluto isn't a planet because crossing the orbit of Neptune means
that it hasn't cleared its "neighborhood," why is NEPTUNE still a
planet?
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science
by chuckedward August 24, 2006 10:27 AM PDT
my science teacher taught me wrong?
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why
by firestarter August 24, 2006 10:36 AM PDT
what are we not calling pluto a planet. does the science community have nothing better to do than take away our planets
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things change
by epiccollision August 24, 2006 11:18 AM PDT
get used to it
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Wait a minute...
by J_Satch August 24, 2006 12:07 PM PDT
...I thought Pluto was a dog!
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Science must change. It is the way it works.
by Stan Johnson August 24, 2006 12:26 PM PDT
Science changes as greater information is gained and understanding evolves. Science is not set in stone like so many religons. Science is a living evolving understanding of our surroundings. The Pluto downgrade is great because it reflects the evolution of our understanding. Now we have Dwarf Planets and many objects in our solar system can also be better classified.
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Subject line:
by Dr. B August 24, 2006 2:56 PM PDT
Personally, I think it would be nice if they'd just left this whole
thing alone. How many years is it we've gone without a definition
for 'planet' and done just fine? 300 years? 400 years? 500 years?
Why can't they just keep doing it on a case by case basis or
something like they've done for however long?

Not that I think it matters for the general public. Those that want
to agree with the council of astronerds will change the way they
think of Pluto, those that want to think of Pluto as a planet will
continue to do so, not giving a rip if someone else says that
Pluto isn't a planet. Or doing it out of habit. I for one will
continue to refer to Pluto as a planet (and saying "whatever"
whenever someone tries to correct me).

As for Plutos moon, Charon, I don't get why that would be up for
consideration anyways.
It orbits Pluto. It's a moon.
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They're just regrouping them...
by PCCRomeo August 24, 2006 5:54 PM PDT
That's what it sounds like anyway. Why not just teach the first 8 as "classical planets" and the 3 as "dwarf planets" geez, there will continously be planets added to our solar system.
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People who defend
by volterwd August 24, 2006 9:58 PM PDT
Pluto as a planet are tools. I learned it as a planet and i like it that way... but guess what they are only changing the definition for themselves- astronomers- not you snivelling whiney people, simply so that they can communicate amongst themselves and mean the same thing. Lets face it none of you can define a planet, so they came up with something and you dont like it? Who cares!!!?!?!?

You are more than welcome to still call it a planet if you like.
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Has the Pluto delegation objected yet? Sun refused to shine?
by g_m August 24, 2006 10:18 PM PDT
Wow, such an important decision, it affects the motion of all
bodies in the Solar system! How does the President of Mars feel
about this important decision? HELLO! A bunch of "scientists"
who know NOTHING about Pluto (or maybe some of them went
there and can claim something with certainty?) decided to
change the definition of the word they came up with in the first
place, completely arbitrarily. They travelled to three conferences
in very nice places to do so. They still know nothing and their
decision and nomenclature are still meaningless, but DAMN,
they have cool jobs for geeks whose top love affair is that with
Xena!
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Not to worry...
by GlennAl August 25, 2006 4:29 AM PDT
This "decision" was made by less than 10% of the astronomers in the world and backed by a small minority of the attending delegates who "snuck it in" (they oughta go into politics), so it's rather unlikely that it will stand up to the coming backlash simply because of the way it was done. Pluto is only "in the doghouse" temporarily.
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Pluto had to go
by dmm August 25, 2006 10:03 AM PDT
It never fit the standard pneumonic "Mr. Vem J. Sun" so astronomers kept forgetting it, which was very embarassing for them. Also, 8 planets matches up better with the "8-fold way" of high-energy physics and Buddhism. Plus, when Disney named Mickey's dog Pluto, he basically signed its death warrant (as a planet). Nobody took Pluto seriously after that. However, I think that astronomy could redeem itself by naming all new minor planets after cartoon characters. To inaugurate this new tradition, Ceres should be re-named Goofy and Charon re-named Donald. And instead of classifying them as "minor planets," which is very boring, they should call them "Mickey Mouse planets." Think how easy this would make it for schoolchildren to get good grades on tests.
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This will cause DISNEY stock to take a hit.
by disco-legend-zeke August 25, 2006 12:16 PM PDT
At least that company that makes hair removing vibrators for women can quit holding it's breath... VENUS is still in.
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CHILL --- Dwarf Planet still means Planet --- Stupid People
by Thomas, David August 25, 2006 12:59 PM PDT
It's a classifaction .... you sheep can be so dumb sometimes. ...
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It's the (who say so)
by Earl August 26, 2006 5:37 PM PDT
Who ever has the say so, Says it & it becomes So.
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