Antispam list gets spammed

They may've signed up for the service to stay free of unsolicited e-mail, but people in Blue Security's "Do Not Intrude Registry" are getting spammed, the company said Wednesday.

What's more, a spammer is attempting to intimidate the Blue Security customers by sending them threatening messages, according to the Israeli company, which launched its spam-fighting service in July last year.

"It had to happen. We're amazed it's taken so long," said Richi Jennings, an analyst at Ferris Research.

The Do Not Intrude Registry is a list of e-mail addresses that should not be spammed. It's encrypted, so spammers can't extract the actual addresses. Blue Security fights spammers by crippling their Web sites, in the name of its users, with a flood of complaints. About 500,000 people have signed up for the service, Blue Security said.

But it was simple for spammers to get hold of at least some of the e-mail addresses in Blue Security's registry, Jennings said. "A spammer has taken his list and 'cleaned' it against the Blue Security list. He then compared the original list with the cleaned list to figure out which addresses were removed."

It appears spammers are passing around this list of names that purports to be the Blue Security do-not-spam list. "Levels of spam received by members of the Blue Security list have roughly doubled since May 1," Jennings wrote.

The spam troubles are evidence that the Blue Security approach to fighting spam works, company CEO Eran Reshef said in the statement. "This is just proof that the Blue Community is an effective deterrent to spammers that are using unethical and illegal tactics to promote their products and services."

The affected Blue Security users were already getting spam, since the spammers had them on a list in the first place. Now they may just be getting a little more. "This isn't a disaster for Blue Security," Jennings said.

"Spammers are feeling the pressure," Reshef said. "This incident is only a futile attempt by a degenerate spammer to fight back through intimidation and extortion."

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Works for me
by Christopher Hall May 3, 2006 8:02 PM PDT
I joined Blue Security a few months back. My university email account, which was entirely overrun by spam - to the tune of about 20 messages a day or upwards of 600 a month - was down to 100 a month. It works, sure enough. I think we just need to stick to it.

Does this spammer think that, quite possibly, spamming the people on the list will only increase exponentially his servers flooding? Do you think that occurred to him?
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Works for me
by Christopher Hall May 3, 2006 8:02 PM PDT
I joined Blue Security a few months back. My university email account, which was entirely overrun by spam - to the tune of about 20 messages a day or upwards of 600 a month - was down to 100 a month. It works, sure enough. I think we just need to stick to it.

Does this spammer think that, quite possibly, spamming the people on the list will only increase exponentially his servers flooding? Do you think that occurred to him?
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Anti-Semitic Spammers
by srdiamond May 3, 2006 8:08 PM PDT
The spammers are a nasty bunch. They called Blue Secure rootless Israeli Jews, trying to appeal to or actually expressing their malignant anti-Semitism.

But Blue Security wasn't honest with its users either. They never informed users that they were engaged in counter-spamming, instead characterizing their activities as sending reports to the appropriate government agencies.

Perhaps the spammers and Blue Security truly are cut from the same cloth.
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Anti-Semitic Spammers
by srdiamond May 3, 2006 8:08 PM PDT
The spammers are a nasty bunch. They called Blue Secure rootless Israeli Jews, trying to appeal to or actually expressing their malignant anti-Semitism.

But Blue Security wasn't honest with its users either. They never informed users that they were engaged in counter-spamming, instead characterizing their activities as sending reports to the appropriate government agencies.

Perhaps the spammers and Blue Security truly are cut from the same cloth.
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Cannot work
by hadaso May 3, 2006 10:28 PM PDT
This scheme cannot work. Hwat it really does is mark the adresses on that list as valuable to their users, increasing their value for spammers that can then sell them in premium mailing lists and charge more for them.

On the other hand, the thought that spammers cannot escape "being spammed" is quite retarted: They forge headers. They send from hijacked machines. They change their websites often with hosting and domains they obtain using stolen credit card data. And if they are attacked from a limited number of sources they can quite easily locate the sources and block them.

It's easier to change an email address than to "protect" it or take down a spammer, and it's trivial to stay quite spam free if you plan in advance how to use your email addresses.
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Cannot work
by hadaso May 3, 2006 10:28 PM PDT
This scheme cannot work. Hwat it really does is mark the adresses on that list as valuable to their users, increasing their value for spammers that can then sell them in premium mailing lists and charge more for them.

On the other hand, the thought that spammers cannot escape "being spammed" is quite retarted: They forge headers. They send from hijacked machines. They change their websites often with hosting and domains they obtain using stolen credit card data. And if they are attacked from a limited number of sources they can quite easily locate the sources and block them.

It's easier to change an email address than to "protect" it or take down a spammer, and it's trivial to stay quite spam free if you plan in advance how to use your email addresses.
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I don't understand spam
by mabroox May 4, 2006 12:19 AM PDT
Apparently SPAM is useful, people are still doing it, but I don't understand it. When I get spam email, I feel hostile towards the spammer and the product/service they are advertising. In fact, I'll not buy that product just out spite. I don't care if I've been looking for a male enhancement pill that not only makes me last longer in bed, but give me a full head of hair and comes with a free diploma to the college of my choice...I'll still not use a spammer's product or service.

Yet the spam continues. Why?
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I don't understand spam
by mabroox May 4, 2006 12:19 AM PDT
Apparently SPAM is useful, people are still doing it, but I don't understand it. When I get spam email, I feel hostile towards the spammer and the product/service they are advertising. In fact, I'll not buy that product just out spite. I don't care if I've been looking for a male enhancement pill that not only makes me last longer in bed, but give me a full head of hair and comes with a free diploma to the college of my choice...I'll still not use a spammer's product or service.

Yet the spam continues. Why?
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simple.
by Nocturnex May 4, 2006 12:48 AM PDT
its known as a mail bomb, try sending 16,000 emails an hour, "google: mail bomb" its the new cool thing, ive actually dropped like 50 email accts...poor people actually begged me to stop, to bad i have no pity. give spammers what they deserve, spam.
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simple.
by Nocturnex May 4, 2006 12:48 AM PDT
its known as a mail bomb, try sending 16,000 emails an hour, "google: mail bomb" its the new cool thing, ive actually dropped like 50 email accts...poor people actually begged me to stop, to bad i have no pity. give spammers what they deserve, spam.
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