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September 11, 2007 12:31 PM PDT

A little bit of desert to light up the entire U.S.

(Credit: Ausra)

DAVIS, Calif.--Ausra CEO Peter Le Lievre says it will only take a little bit of desert to light up the United States.

Ausra has developed technology for converting heat from the sun into electricity. The trick is that it's far more efficient, the company claims, than traditional solar thermal technologies from companies such as Solel and Acciona.

The process works as follows: Water goes into a tube that sits over an array of flat mirrors in the desert. By the time it gets to the end of the tube, the water turns to steam, which then turns a generator. Ausra can use water, rather than oil like other companies, because its tube can withstand high pressures. You can read more about Ausra here, including the $40 million the company got.

Solar thermal

Le Lievre told an audience at the Going Green conference that a 92-mile square (92 miles a side, which works out to be a little less than 8,500 square miles) in the desert--a very small amount--could provide all of the electricity in the country. "We are more than two times more efficient when it comes to land," he said. Update: We originally gave the wrong dimensions for that land area. The numbers are now correct.

Ausra's system is also cheaper, he claims. "We are at 10 cents a kilowatt hour today," he said. With mass manufacturing, we will fall below gas (natural gas plants) and beat coal."

Those are big words. Solar thermal now costs about twice as much as regular electricity. Regular electricity goes for around 5 to 8 cents a kilowatt hour.

Ausra will have a chance to prove its case. The company, which wants to build a 175-megawatt plant in California that would take up a square mile, is getting the permits now and hopes to have it operating in three years.

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by lktrekkie September 11, 2007 12:55 PM PDT
How does the water get to the desert?
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Environmentalists will hate this...
by kgforce September 11, 2007 1:15 PM PDT
...because it would destroy 92 sq. mi. of pristine desert, endanger native species, etc.... Count on it!
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terrorism
by spiffy1001 September 11, 2007 1:16 PM PDT
I hope they don't put all 95 miles next to each other in the desert. one nuke goes off and it's lights out for America.
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Funny Math
by shoffmueller September 11, 2007 1:20 PM PDT
The article says a 175 megawatt plant will require 1 square mile of
area. So, 92 square miles would be 16,000 megawatts. I think the
total generating capacity of the US is about 1 million megawatts.
Am I calculating wrong?
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sounds good... but...
by lnxpro September 11, 2007 1:39 PM PDT
what happends at night? run off of batteries?

I am thinking this is like photonic solar power. charge batteries so you can run at night :)
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The battery question was retarded
by phillynets September 11, 2007 1:51 PM PDT
You do understand that we have an electrical grid, right? Energy is generated through a variety of means, stored, and distributed when needed and not just when the sun is up, the coal is cranking, or the wind is blowing.

This isn't going to replace all of the other power plants, but it is a novel idea and could be a lot interesting than the wind farms or photo-arays. It is certainly more interesting that the coal or fossil fuel plants.

It would be perfect in a utopian 3rd World Country too - providing plentiful electrity to "the people". If only security were not an issue - as it always is.
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Impossible
by XX6XX9XX September 11, 2007 5:56 PM PDT
-Electricity made in the desert would not survive a trip to NY. Even with thousands of substations boosting it along the way, one would need to produce enough to power EVERYTHING in between... steel mills, Chicago, are 2 things. Not to mention the cost and transporting the water to the site. And many more that time and space here do not allow me to list.
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Could be good, but one huge location is silly
by HaywoodJabuzzoff September 11, 2007 8:14 PM PDT
As someone mentioned, power transmission becomes an issue in the scenario proposed. However, the single 175 megawatt plant sounds great. Bear in mind that the peak of electricity usage is during the day, so plants like this to supplement the traditional plants are a great way to go. I'd like to see some of the new photovoltaic technology get used in this way. Or better yet, convert all the rooftops of people's houses to use photovoltaic shingles. Result? A total guess on my part but if this didn't reduce our daytime consumption of power from conventional power plants by significantly more than 50% I'd be shocked. Then we could all power our electric cars (like the TeslaMotors.com roadster!) from the power on our roofs! :-)
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Great concept
by Travis Ernst September 11, 2007 8:59 PM PDT
Haywood... Fine, we throw up the panneling on our roofs...
where do the drycells and or sub stations go to handle the
generated power for the neighborhood? Who gets to have their
home torn down. See the problem if we do it that way. You
want them in your basement, or a shed in the backyard? Good
idea, but maintaining the local "grid" or per home power
reduction that co-ops frequently do is then the issue.

This large scale solar "farm" (best term I can think of) will only
add power to the national grid. So be it (example) Ohio can
keep power closer to the eastern coast an not have to sell it to
California when they have the draw. Yes thats a frequent
purchase. It doesn't matter WHERE they buy from, it is who has
excess available. Or Maine Yankee (nuke) can sell it to the grid
if Sharon Harris can't generate enough to meet the demand, or
High Bridge (gas) whatever plant you want in the example. It
happens every day in every states grid.

Look at how many transformers we have in our homes. They are
a frequent waste of power. I started to keep the ones I rarely
use unplugged just to save on my bills. Unplugged about 4 1A
units. You don't realize how much power you waste.
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