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August 29, 2007 9:00 AM PDT

Vista SP1: Small things come in big packages

Microsoft's planned Vista Service Pack 1 may not be adding many features, but it sure does take up a lot of space.

Based on current test versions, the operating system update will be a 1GB file when uncompressed. By way of comparison, Windows XP--the whole thing--shipped on a CD, which only holds about three quarters of a gigabyte. On the plus side, systems that already have the latest Vista patches can be brought up to the Service Pack 1 level with only a 50MB compressed file through Microsoft's online Windows Update utility.

Also notable, installing the OS will require 7GB of free hard drive space, though much of that will be returned to the user once the megapatch is applied.

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Microsoft said its research shows that it shouldn't be a problem for most consumers who are running Vista. Businesses, which sometimes put the operating system in its own partition, may have some issues. Microsoft says that's why it's letting people know now, so hopefully those that are deploying Vista before SP1 can plan ahead.

"We're trying to give the guidance here early," said Shanen Boettcher, a general manager in the Windows unit.

Although most people probably have 7GB of space to temporarily lend to Vista, the requirement could be an issue for folks with ultramobile devices or Mac users running Vista in a partition on their hard drive.

"The data we have shows us that's not going to be a big issue," Boettcher said.

IDC analyst Al Gillen said he didn't expect the 7GB requirement to be too onerous. "If somebody doesn't have 7GB (free), they probably have a system that is pretty marginal to be running Vista anyway," Gillen said.

As for why the service pack is so huge in the first place, Microsoft says several technical decisions come into play. For one, Microsoft is including all of Vista's supported languages in the service pack, so businesses can deploy one version of the update to all their machines in different countries. Also, the company has done work to keep the upgrades as separate components so that individual pieces can be uninstalled, if necessary.

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My Gawd!
by Kings X Rocks! August 29, 2007 9:27 AM PDT
No anit-MS comments yet? I'm disappointed.
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Don't repeat Visual Studio 2005 SP1 mess..
by Gunady August 29, 2007 9:32 AM PDT
I have a nightmare installing VS2005 SP1 in my machine, that has about 2-3GB left, and it turns out that VS2005 SP1 requires 6-7GB. And sadly, it runs without validating the required free space, and in the middle, the installation simply stop with some error messages. And that's it, my VS2005 stop working, .NET Framework 2.0 was corrupted. Repair, Uninstall, Reinstall without success.. The last option: reinstall OS, bad bad bad :(.

Hope Vista doesn't have same problem, although I highly expect SP1 of Vista to come out as soon as possible.
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We'll see
by supercoolpcguy August 29, 2007 9:32 AM PDT
A 1GB update that takes (even temporarily) 7GB while installing? Compressed into 50MB over Windows Auto Updates? Don't hold your breath.
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Stockholm Syndrome
by MaLvaDo39 August 29, 2007 9:38 AM PDT
Microsoft has you captive and you sympathize with them...

You remain in the dark age of computing as long as Windows is
your OS...
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If you don't have the space...
by paulreid99 August 29, 2007 10:11 AM PDT
You may be able to mount an additional drive as a folder in Drive Manager (wherever that is now) and "fool" the OS into thinking there is space on the OS drive.

You would probably have to figure out where Microsoft wants to put its temp files and mount it as that folder name.

May work. Don't know. The risk is yours. But if you are looking at reinstalling anyway.
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And this is a good thing?
by Gringras August 29, 2007 10:37 AM PDT
I'm no genius but, doesn't this seem odd to anyone else?
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the partition
by loydd August 29, 2007 10:37 AM PDT
that is the most annoying thing that they put onto it
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Poor marketing and distribution
by robert1275 August 29, 2007 1:45 PM PDT
Once again Microsoft does a poor job of marketing. The key to get consumers to buy this type of thing is to have it ready by Christmas...at least for the OEMs. This is a great incentive to buy for Christmas. Terrible sales, marketing, and development
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Please no rush job / install partition default
by maeckg August 29, 2007 4:33 PM PDT
Security updates need to be quickly available, but a service pack has to work right from the install. MS should take the time to optimize the SP for a change since Vista is very bloated anyway. An installer that is more flexible than using 7 gig on the system partition would be easily achievable for a company as large as MS.
Speaking of which: Windows installer should automatically default to creating a system partition separate from the user profiles, programs and data. The harddrives are usually large enough. I always do this so I can easily reinstall the OS, but preinstalled Windows machines and most users do not. It would make maintenance, security and updates easier and more reliable and does not cost anything.
My issue with the size of the SP1 install is that I have three operating systems installed on different partitions already on my Vista machine as well as a Virtual PC guest OS. I went by the Vista guides for the recommended size of the system partition plus generous wiggle room, but SP2 might be a tight fit.
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Guess I'll Be Repartitioning
by Stating September 2, 2007 4:53 PM PDT
One would hope that the 7 gig free space requirement can be satisfied by having the space on any available partition not just C:, but I'm not counting on it.

Also, it seems kind of nutty that there still isn't a mechanism to archive off to DVD or other media all those KB patch, rollback, and uninstall files. After a year or so of operation the drive gets filled up with gigabytes of useless crud.
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Critical Mass
by tromba59 September 4, 2007 3:07 PM PDT
At what point does this thing just implode? Windows, as well as most software, has become a big, fat, ugly solution looking desperately for a problem. Occam's Razor, boys & girls.
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1 gig XP??? Try Win3.11
by ronwolfe September 4, 2007 10:41 PM PDT
I still do installs of Windows 3.11, with 10 megs as the install package (6 floppies)!! And with Office 4.3, it does what most of my clients want.
But partitioning a 40gig drive into 20 partitions is a pain! (the old 2gig limit)
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