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June 18, 2007 5:16 PM PDT

W3C's openness hypocrisy: Public barred from 'public' conference

The World Wide Web Consortium, which purports to be an "open forum" for standards discussion, doesn't exactly live up to its own claims.

Earlier on Monday, the W3C barred one of my colleagues, News.com reporter Anne Broache, from attending a "Toward More Transparent Government" conference held, ironically, in a government building in Washington, D.C.

W3C's Danny Weitzner, who claims 'public' actually means 'not public'

The conference Web site clearly says: "Conversations and results are public."

But Danny Weitzner, one of the W3C's policy directors and event co-chair, repeatedly claimed in a followup telephone conversation that, by "public," the W3C actually means "closed to the public." Weitzner was the person who personally barred my colleague from entering the conference.

"There was clearly some ambiguity," Weitzner said. "We recognize that the (call for participation) could have been more clear." He said that News.com was not being singled out and another reporter who telephoned was also rejected.

Weitzner, a lawyer and Washington insider before moving to the W3C, said making an event discussing government transparency less transparent was necessary because government officials could then speak more freely "without wondering how the press would interpret what they have to say."

"There are times when in order to have an open exchange of ideas, you need to provide an off-the-record environment, which is what we did," Weitzner said. He was, however, unable to identify any government officials who attended the event who might feel stifled.

The event also featured a keynote speech by W3C Director Tim Berners-Lee on the topic of "Widescale data integration: opportunities and challenges."

When asked whether Berners-Lee, hardly reticent about expressing his opinions on this topic, would be opposed to media coverage, Weitzner replied: "The purpose of his event was not to publicize his views."

It's true that the W3C has the right to close its meetings, of course, though we wonder about about the propriety of doing it when a federal building is the venue. The W3C event was held at the National Academy of Sciences, created by an act of Congress in 1863 and funded primarily by federal tax dollars.

The bigger question is whether it's wise for a standards body that supposedly prides itself on openness -- and providing an alternative to proprietary, secretive organizations -- to bar the press from covering, on behalf of our readers, events that are listed as "public" on its own Web site. (It's not like these are confidential discussions about W3C staff salaries or anything, after all, and the Internet Engineering Task Force allows reporters into its working group sessions.)

This week's event at the National Academy of Sciences certainly seems newsworthy. Beyond Berners-Lee's keynote, there also were position papers submitted by Google, Red Hat, the U.S. Library of Congress, the U.S. General Services Administration, and the U.K. Office of Public Sector Information.

The Web site says that "W3C membership is not required in order to participate in the Workshop" -- it doesn't mention any fees nor were we asked to pay any. News.com didn't register in advance, it's true, but Weitzner claimed that we would have been barred anyway.

The odd thing is that before we heard back from Weitzner, we talked to W3C spokeswoman Janet Daly, who said "I can't apologize enough" for the confusion and added, for good measure, "I'm very sorry."

"I think if I had been in DC, I probably would have said, 'Geez, why can't we have her in here?'" Daly said, referring to my colleague who got the boot.

Kudos to her: at least someone at the W3C seems to favor transparency in an official event about, ah, transparency. Unfortunately Weitzner, who gets to make these decisions, doesn't seem to have figured that out.

Declan McCullagh, CNET News' chief political correspondent, chronicles the intersection of politics and technology. He has covered politics, technology, and Washington, D.C., for more than a decade, which has turned him into an iconoclast and a skeptic of anyone who says, "We oughta have a new federal law against this." E-mail Declan.
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Wow!
by Commander_Spock June 18, 2007 6:35 PM PDT
Were these actions by the "W3C" against CNET NEWS at the event some kind of a payback!!!!
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W3C and politics
by solrosenberg June 18, 2007 6:51 PM PDT
Good to see the W3C mixing politics and technical standards. That always works well.
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hmm
by qwerty75 June 18, 2007 7:50 PM PDT
This isn't the first time Declan has come to the defense of this supposed damsel in distress. Most guys just send flowers or invite them to lunch to woo a lady.

Lets ignore the fact that cnet is hardly a reputable news agency(they usually just regurgitate press releases, write nonresearched articles heavily based on a recently published article from more reliable news sources, or simply miss the boat).

In his rush to defend this lady once again, he fails to mention whether the press at large were not allowed in or just Anne Broache. To a legitimate reporter, this would be worth mentioning. To be fair, he mentioned another reporter was barred, but were any allowed in?

Your argument that it was held in a public building has no merit and is laughable. From city and town halls all the way to the federal government, there are always closed door sessions. Is this ideal? No, but sometimes it is necessary.

What Declan hasn't figured out is that the world doesn't revolve around CNET. The world will not end, and there will be plenty of W3C events she can attend, so what is with all the crying and illogic?
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the issue is the technology media and their bad habits
by co_z June 18, 2007 8:27 PM PDT
I think one of the issues here is that tech writers in general are notorious for poor journalistic judgement:
* Creating hype out of nothing
* Focusing on the most sensationalistic aspects of every issue
* Focusing exclusively on one side of every issue

These are part and parcel of being a technology writer. More or less every tech article I have ever seen written has been either an opinion piece or a thinly-veiled advertisement. Not to say that I don't eat it up like Cheetos...

These types of semi-public standards organizations meetings are designed to get stakeholders, experts and policymakers in the same room to hash out every side of an issue. Having the media involved [especially tech media - see above] would inevitably have a chilling effect on the openness of the dialogue. Not everyone is delighted to have someone in the room who is analyzing every word they say and looking for their next blog post/opinion piece. Think about it!

In conclusion, there's no need to turn everything into an Area 51/Freemason conspiracy. I'm sure you'll get your press conference eventually.
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The More Open The Environment
by Len Bullard June 19, 2007 6:15 AM PDT
It is a problem found everywhere on the web or any open system. The more open it is, the more gated systems emerge within it. To understand why, you have to understand control emergence as a function of observation, measurement and correction leading to innovation in the controls (second-order cybernetics, Declan.)

Just as the XML-Dev list is debating Stylus repurposing posts and inserting their own links into them without author permission, the subjects of press articles are closing off the ability of the press to spin by denying access to the articles.

One wants communion over dominion but history shows this to be impractical at scale not because of the big conspiracy but because of the little ones. Local effects in a scalar, I'm afraid. It isn't hypocrisy as much as it is natural evolution by the very design TimBL set into motion. Sorry lads.
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We hear that a lot.
by jestead June 19, 2007 7:27 AM PDT
Out here in the public we hear frequent complaints from the Fourth Estate about being excluded from something it wants to be included in. Sorry if it sounds self-serving to us, but the public's "need to know" isn't infinite.

One thing that is apparent to anyone who watches is that press participation often gets in the way of actual work getting done. Good for the W3C.
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HUGE mis-reporting in action:
by Penguinisto June 19, 2007 8:18 AM PDT
1) You don't have to be a member, but you're supposed to register for the event to attend it See also this: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/eGov-policy

2) The [i]results[/i] and [i]conversations[/i] are to be made public, as stated right here: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/eGov-policy-cfp At no time did anyone there say that any random person (credentialed or not) can simply walk in and plop down. Specifically, these parts are relevant:

* "Space is limited and priority for registration is given to those who have submitted position papers. If you request registration without sending a position paper we suggest that you wait to make any non-refundable travel arrangements."

* "W3C membership is not required in order to participate in the Workshop."

* "The total number of participants will be limited. To ensure diversity, a limit might be imposed on the maximum number of participants per organization."

Cripes... can't C-NET even check basic facts anymore?

/P
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Anyone from CNET/NEWS.COM ...
by cnetzuckz June 19, 2007 9:23 AM PDT
Should be banned from any event. They are so biased on everything that it is good to know they don't let them in everywhere.

So, SUCK IT UP! Crying babies...
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Orwellian
by dburdon June 19, 2007 9:29 AM PDT
Orwellian, or what?
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The truth about W3C
by Sentinel June 19, 2007 10:20 AM PDT
The truth is that the W3C has become nothing more than the giant companies' puppet. The big enterprises pay thousands of dollars as an annual fee to BE in this so called "open standards agency". So, if anyone else wants to join that is not a super-mega-big business conglomerate, pay the thousands of dollars in fees. How "open" is that? The big companies that are members submit their own "standards" as reccomendations to the W3C. Take VML and SVG. Too markup languages for the same purpose, and both are reccomendations on the W3C site. Big surprise: one of these languages was created by Microsoft, member of the W3C, a company who has always opposed open information formats.

So to me, it comes as no big surprise that W3C is banning the media from "public" events such as these. Not when the members are a bunch of execs from companies that pride themselves of restrictive things such as trademarks, intellectual property and closed, propietary data formats.

W3C should be disbanded, and its responsibilities (if they still do anything other than write "standards" on paper), should be passed to the IETF.
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Guh?
by JustOneVoice June 19, 2007 7:06 PM PDT
So, let me see if I have this straight. You compare Daniel J. Weitzner to Bill Clinton because, in your reporting, he "repeatedly claimed" that public means "closed to the public"? Not to point out the very obvious flaws in your reasoning, but did you actually follow the impeachment proceedings? Bill Clinton was busted because he lied under oath, in a very clear and public way. If Daniel Weitzner did anything, it was to be underspecific when he should have realized some people can't read directions. No one tried to pull a fast one. The guidelines for registering for the workshop were publicly available and accessible to anyone who cared to read them. If the W3C chose not to allow CNet or other press representatives to participate, it was well within it purview to do so in accord with the published guidelines of the workshop. To make such loose and flimsy alignments in your comparisons speaks more of your skills as a journalist than to anything W3C or its representatives may have done.

Your rant is sour grapes, and you should be ashamed of yourself for acting like such a weeny. Some poor 12 year-old working on a homework assignment may take you seriouosly and perpetuate your flawed and resentful reasoning. Shame on you.
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