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Windows virus worms onto some Apple iPods

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September 12, 2006
Apple Computer warned on Tuesday that some of its latest iPods have shipped with a Windows virus.

The company said that a small number of video iPods made after Sept. 12 included the RavMonE virus. It said it has seen fewer than 25 reports of the problem, which it said does not affect other models of the media player, nor does it affect Macs.

The Cupertino, Calif.-based company apologized on its Web site for the problem, but also used the opportunity to jab at Microsoft, its operating system rival.

"As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it," Apple said on its site.

Apple Vice President Greg Joswiak told CNET News.com that the virus was discovered last week and said the company has been working around the clock since then to discover the root cause of the problem. Joswiak said it was traced to a particular Windows machine in the manufacturing lines of a contract manufacturer that builds the iPods for Apple. The company declined to name the maker.

"It's more important to say we now have processes in place to make sure this won't happen again," Joswiak said. "Very few units actually went through that particular station, fortunately."

The company said that computers using a current antivirus software and with default settings should detect and remove RavMonE, as it is an identified virus. It is urging iPod users without such protection to install antivirus software.

Apple said that the video iPods now being made are virus-free. It introduced the latest generation of iPods last month.

Antivirus company McAfee listed the iPod threat as a low risk, but gave it the rating of "low/profiled," which the company said applies to viruses that "appear to be low risk, but warrant additional monitoring because they have attracted media interest."

Joswiak said the virus does not affect Macs or the iPod itself. As for Windows machines, Joswiak said the virus "does not cause data damage but can lower the security of the computer" and said it should be removed. Apple points to various antivirus firms' Web sites, including McAfee, Microsoft and Symantec, as places consumers can get antivirus software if they don't already have it.

Apple said that there was no intentional placement of the virus on the iPods. "You can rest assured of that," he said.

CNET News.com's Joris Evers contributed to this report.

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It was bound to happen
by rcrusoe October 17, 2006 2:21 PM PDT
with all the Windows viruses that have been with us forever. Heck, it was reported that even Microsoft shipped the Concept virus on their Microsoft Windows 95 Software Compatibility Test CD in August 95.

Apple doesn't have any experience dealing with viruses, but they are going to have to learn:

When you lay down with dogs, you are going to get fleas.
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Apple BS
by wlau October 17, 2006 2:27 PM PDT
If Windows is that bad, why would Apple use it as a production tool? I think the only reason a windows virus got into the iPod during production is because Apple is using Windows as a tool or that Apple OS is not all that secure itself...
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Unbelievable stupidity by Apple
by ancre007 October 17, 2006 2:27 PM PDT
Apple needs to take responsibility for their goof up. How dare they ship me a virus infected iPod and then try to shove the blame on Windows and Microsoft?? Apple needs to fix their own quality control processes - not be pointing fingers at others for their shortcomings.
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The Headline?
by mhersh October 17, 2006 2:47 PM PDT
"Apple loads..." I'm sure Apple didn't load the virus. It was
probably some stupid Chinese factory worker trying to look up
porn. Apple has no control over what goes on in China.
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But then again
by heystoopid October 17, 2006 2:51 PM PDT
But then again, a company that ships DIB(dead in box 1 in 20 chance) Ipods, this negative customer attitude should come as no surprise!

Don't forget , they also chose to purchase those cheap self exploding SONY Li batteries, for use in their laptops !

So customer last, is Apple's mantra anyway!
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HAHA C|NET TOPIC CHANGE!
by Mephux October 17, 2006 3:06 PM PDT
haha C|net changed the topic of this article.. "Apple loads Windows
virus on iPods" to "Windows virus worms onto some Apple iPods"..

That's right.. A lot of your community use Apple Products.. So stop
the propaganda or we will boycott your user driven site into the
ground...
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Ignorant Apple
by ron williams October 17, 2006 3:17 PM PDT
Apple users sware by there cult ways. Honestly, maybe apple users should end bashing whatever operating system and bash there own. No one actually cares about apples product being supposedly secure. Consider, they have less market share than firefox had at 1.0 launch, and even then, firefox was more secure. Fast forward to now, and with all the users of firefox, it has had a string of exploits.

Maybe apple should take after windows and fix there software exploits instead of releasing new version numbers with the exploits included for whatever insane cost.

An additional thought of mine is, why is apple using a manufacturer that has windows computers? I thought mac was so much better, seems the manufacturer did not think the same was true.

As for macs staying on for a year as is stated in a reply to this story, I find it incredibly stupid that this person would think that windows pc's always crash and macs stay on for years. There's a simple reason for this, normally when windows crashes, it's because of some memory leak in a program, when macs crash it's because some hardware device failed since there aren't too many pieces of software that apple doesn't make for macs. Don't think that this makes a case for apple making software, they honestly have a long way to go before they're a serious company in that market. They should learn that security fixes are free, not the next version of the product. Oh, did I mention the automatic deleting itunes songs with itunes 7?

Guess windows and macs have there issues. All operating systems do, however before throwing stones about one being better than the other, maybe they should both be used in real world environments. I can't think of an fortune 500 company that uses macs as there main PC's, can you?
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MS Not Responsible for Apple's Gross Incompetence
by john55440 October 17, 2006 3:20 PM PDT
Leave it to Apple, to try and Microsoft, for their own gross incompetence.
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What does it matter?
by PCCRomeo October 17, 2006 3:39 PM PDT
If those people run Windows they already have a slew of viruses on
their machine anyway!!!
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Time to change the broken record
by Seaspray0 October 17, 2006 3:43 PM PDT
Geez, another Mac VS Windows blast in just about every post. Every one that is pro Mac has stated one and only one message: You should buy Mac because security in the other OS sux.

Typical "vote for me because my opponent sux" attitude. I'm not buying it.... and it's the same message "buy Mac because security in the other OS sux." I have supported Mac as a good OS but I'm sick and tired of hearing macboy central with the same broken record. Never anything new, just the same post over and over again by Macboy central. Perhaps its time for a rebutal broken record...

You should buy Microsoft Windows because Mac will only run 2 out of the 20 top games. Once you try Windows, you'll never go back. Mac sux and everyone knows it.

Lame, huh? I think the same of the macboy one. Considering I've never had a virus on my Windows, I'd say the security is good and not nearly as bad as what the macboys make it out to be. I tried both, made my choice and I'm enjoying it. BTW, I am also enjoying all these cool games that are available.
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Windows User
by Corrupt_Data October 17, 2006 3:52 PM PDT
At least I don't have iCrap so far up my ass that it's rotting and giving me cancer. Please, before you insult 98% of the world try looking at what your iCult's own problems are. I at least admit that Windows breeds a culture of computer immaturity and has many security holes. However, recomending we all go out and buy Apple products is not the answer as all the viruses would come to your precious iPlatform. Also, I prefer to build my own computers, which at the moment is not possible with apple. Finally, what say you regarding gaming? You may be able to edit photos easily and hold webcam chats, but the game selection on mac is far and few between, which is why I'll never get a mac nor be able to use Linux as my primary OS.
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any clues to that
by gggg sssss October 17, 2006 3:53 PM PDT
so 5 percent use Apples - CNET should cringe at a boycot from that lot? ROTFLMAO
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...
by Corrupt_Data October 17, 2006 3:55 PM PDT
Can you build your own mac? No...

Oh, but you have a good selection of games, right? Oh wait... also no. I know, lets all go play Cro-Mag Ralley and HaloPC!
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Who cares to blame? It is about the virus...
by epolieboy October 17, 2006 3:59 PM PDT
So this topic is basically picking an argument between Mac and
Windows users to blame someone for this? Go ahead Windows
users and blame Apple, and Mac users can blame Microsoft. But
in the end companies do make mistakes. Apple isnt perfect and
acknowledges their mistakes. Microsoft makes tons of mistakes
too.

The main point here is that who ever gets blammed for it really
doesnt matter because it comes down to this single virus.
A virus that exists on Windows and Windows alone. So Windows
users can't really blame Apple for the fact that viruses exist on
their computers but Apple will say sorry this happened anyway.

Notice no Mac user is even remotely upset about this whole
ordeal. This is because in no way does this affect them. I am not
saying screw everyone else, but at least everyone else (Windows
users) should be open to something that won't screw you over
(the Mac).

Windows users should think about buying a computer that will
not have problems like this ever again. As a user of both in my
life I have truely discoverd the light of Apple and what makes
them superior. Do not fear the change and you will thankful in
the end.
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hmm
by epolieboy October 17, 2006 4:18 PM PDT
I can't say I agree that the ONLY reason it is more secure is because
of its marketshare. And it is exceeding 12 percent now by the way.
So it is definitly on the rise because people are seeing what they
are made of and all the old myths of Macs are fading away.

Besides, who gives a s*** if Apple is blaming Microsoft, does this
hurt your feelings? All I care is that I have a quality computer that
won't fail me. You obviously are upset about something...I wonder
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That's what I see at work
by Mister Winky October 17, 2006 4:49 PM PDT
At my work (academia), Macs represent ~20% of all client OS machines. MacBooks are very popular, especially among students. That said, Mac desktops don't sell much at all.

I keep a closer eye on Apple's financial statements than their keynotes. My understanding is that Mac laptops are selling very well, but Mac desktops are not selling as well as years past.

I have a MacMini and 2 test machines, so I use both, but I still prefer the Windows platform for a vast majority of my work. Some people around here find that hard to believe, but it is a highly educated choice. FWIW, I work in IT, I also use Linux frequently and my first computer was an Apple IIe (which I still have).

The best chance for me to buy a Mac is if I can use a MacMini as a media hub and DVR for an HD system. Given the pre-announcement of the new HW product next year, there's a chance. Still, Vista's "Media Edition" functionality also looks very good.

-Mister Winky
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desktop boom in the future
by epolieboy October 17, 2006 5:03 PM PDT
i think that mac desktops will boom later on. right now college kids
need laptops and they are picking up the best ones, macbooks and
macbook pros. why? because they here good things, but the key for
them is they run windows and os x. when the students here they
run both systems they say "ok, i'll try it cause if i don't like it i still
have windows". most people end up liking it more than they
thought. Soon comes a need for a desktop down the road. where
do they go? to the imac.. apple is on the rise, we should be happy,
in fact, they did give us the mouse
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Apple innocent?
by embre October 17, 2006 5:55 PM PDT
How do they come through unscathed? They say they traced it to a windows machine and blame it on microsoft but the fact remains that they sold infected IPods. So how do they sound so innocent?
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u r wrong
by kallu_be October 17, 2006 6:31 PM PDT
Microsoft shipped a lot of versions after windows xp released in sep 2001.
for the list
Win XP SP1
Win XP SP2
Windows 2003 server
Windows xp 64 bit
Windows 2003 64bit
Windows media center editions 2004 and 2005

i think u know that xbox 360 runs on IBM processors and the operating system used is based on windows 2003. The XBOX development kits Microsoft supplied to the game developers are mac pro's with Microsoft operating system (i think) or just mac version of "direct X".

I think u had to know that current "Macos X" are based on open-bsd kernel and its open source. The top X layer is apple property. I don't think apple has resources to develop operating system from scratch in less that 2 years.
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sorry
by kallu_be October 17, 2006 6:34 PM PDT
actually i am replying to this comment
"Ok.. Port Windows to the IBM processor ... Get back to me in a million years when you finnish.. They did that in 2 months to x86..."
This is the first time i am posting ... will take care from the next time
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