May 19, 2004 10:10 PM PDT

Is Torvalds really the father of Linux?

It's hard to imagine that Linus Torvalds could have launched Linux without directly using earlier operating system work, according to a report that has become controversial even before its scheduled publication Thursday.

The 92-page report, from a 14-person Washington, D.C., think tank called the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, suggests more Linux credit should go to Minix. A Unix clone, Minix was designed by Andrew Tanenbaum to help him teach operating systems and software at Vrije University in Amsterdam. Torvalds used Minix before he embarked on Linux development in 1991.

In an e-mail interview, Torvalds strongly disputed the study's conclusions. And Tanenbaum himself has harshly criticized the study.

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According to the study, it's safe to argue that Tanenbaum, who had years of OS experience and who had seen the Unix source code, could create Minix in three years. "However, it is highly questionable that Linus, still just a student, with virtually no operating systems development experience, could do the same, especially in one-sixth of the time," says the study, which was written by Ken Brown, president of the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution.

"Why are the most brilliant business minds in the history of PC technology, with hundreds of millions of dollars in capital, licensing Unix source code, if it is as simple as writing it from scratch with little help or experience?" the study asks. "Is it possible that building a Unix operating system really only takes a few months--and, oh by the way, you don't even need the source code to do it?"

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Gordon Haff, an engineer and analyst for analysis firm Illuminata, took a more measured view. "I think we can all stipulate that Linux is not a 'clean room' creation. Whether that makes it a derivative work is a question for the lawyers and the philosophers," he said. As for suspicions about Torvalds' rapid early progress, it should be noted "that the original product was quite primitive," he said.

The study comes not long after several attacks on Linux--many of them spurred by Microsoft, whose Windows operating system competes with Linux. More significantly, it arrives in the midst of a legal attack on Linux by the SCO Group, which argues Linux violates its Unix copyrights.

Bolder words
Although the new study raises more questions than it answers, in an interview, Brown was bolder in his claims.

"It's clear to me, at least from quotes from Tanenbaum, that Linus started from Minix...He just sat down with Minix and wrote this product. By definition, that is not an invention," Brown said. "If you sit down with the Ford blueprints and build a Chrysler and don't give Ford any credit, that's not invention."

In an interview conducted for the study, Brown quoted Tanenbaum as saying that Minix "was the base that Linus used to create Linux. He also took many ideas from Minix, including the file system, source tree and much more."

If Linux is a derivative work of Minix, that makes Linux vulnerable to charges of intellectual property infringement by Prentice Hall, which published books on Minix, as well as the Minix source code, but restricted its use until 2000, the study said. "Arguably, Prentice Hall has lost out on tens of millions of dollars" because of lost book sales, the study said.


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But Torvalds argued that he and other Linux developers have given proper credit.

"Linux never used Minix code...We never credited anybody else's code, because we never used anybody else's code," Torvalds said. But Unix, he said, did provide ideas: "Linux has always credited Unix. There has never been any question about the fact that Linux was very open about taking a lot of good ideas from Unix."

Minix, he said, was simply a platform on top of which Torvalds did his programming work.

The study suggested that Torvalds might have gradually replaced Minix code with Linux, but Torvalds says that did not happen.

"I didn't 'write the Minix code out of Linux,'" Torvalds said. "I was using Minix when I wrote Linux, but that's in the same sense that you are using Windows when you write your columns. Do your articles contain Windows source code because you use Windows to write them?"

Torvalds isn't the only one to dispute the study: Tanenbaum himself sided against Brown.

"Linus didn't sit down in a vacuum and suddenly type in the Linux source code. He had my book, was running Minix and undoubtedly knew the history (since it is in my book). But the code was his," Tanenbaum said in a Web posting about his interview.

"By the time Linus started, five people had independently implemented Unix or something approximating it...All of this was perfectly legal and nobody stole anything. Given this history, it is pretty hard to make a case that one person can't implement a system of the complexity of Linux."

Fueling the flames
When the institute announced the pending publication of the report earlier this week--saying it "directly challenges Linus Torvalds' claim to be the inventor of Linux"--it immediately drew criticism from open-source advocates who suggested Linux foe Microsoft was behind the report.

Microsoft indeed has provided funding to the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution for five years, a Microsoft representative said, without disclosing how much has been granted. Microsoft funds several public policy institutes, including the American Enterprise Institute, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, the Heritage Foundation, and the Cato Institute, the representative said.

Brown declined to discuss his organization's funding sources, but said there are several and that its research is independent. "I publish what I think, and that's it. I don't work for anybody's PR machine," he said.

One area where Brown and Torvalds agree is that Torvalds shouldn't bear the title of Linux "inventor."

"I'd agree that 'inventor' is not necessarily the right word," Torvalds said, to describe his role in Linux.

The study also raises the issue that Torvalds saw Unix source code. This was available in annotated source code that John Lions, a professor at the University of New South Wales in Australia, made available to his classes. The notes were widely distributed illegally afterward, and "many suspect that Linus also had the Lions notes," the report said.

Not true, Torvalds said: "I've never seen the Lions book, although I've obviously heard of it. And no, no Unix source code either."

Brown and his colleagues interviewed more than two dozen people for the study, but Torvalds "didn't get back to us" with requests for comment. Torvalds said he never received any e-mail from the institution.

The Linux issue fuels Brown's concern that open-source software makes it easier for other countries to benefit from U.S. technological prowess, he said: "How are you going to have an intellectual-property economy if you can just rip off stuff?"

Such political and business issues likely will get more attention in a book Brown plans to publish in coming months that will expand on the study.

The study will be sold by an outside e-book seller, Brown said. Although his organization usually makes studies available on its own, outsiders have crashed the group's Web site twice in recent days, after it published a press release on the upcoming study, Brown said.

The study is at times provocative, but in the end, it isn't revolutionary, Illuminata analyst Haff said: "It doesn't ultimately tell me anything surprising that would cause me to rethink the role of open source." --What's your take on this story? Visit News.com's feedback section.

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What a sensationalist
by May 19, 2004 11:45 PM PDT
This is a totally non-issue: Ken Brown is biased, Linux kernel's source code has changed totally in the last decade no way any code from Minix (if there was ever any) would still be there, and getting ideas from others is not a crime.

I found it hard to believe that this sensationalist still managed to made his way to various mass media.
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"linux is obsolete"
by May 19, 2004 11:47 PM PDT
There is a famous newsgroup thread where Tanenbaum mentions why "linux us obsolete" and gives a point by point discussion on how linux and minix are different. A copy of this thread is here http://security.royans.net/info/posts/linux_is_obsolete.shtml

There are many books on how to write optimized code out there... which are used to teach people how to write optimized code. The authors of those books are paid for the books, and the students learn new tips and tricks... and as long as the content of the book is used for research and not copied to be published elsewhere illegally, its considered ok.
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http://security.royans.net/info/posts/linux_is_obsolete.shtml
by May 19, 2004 11:47 PM PDT
http://security.royans.net/info/posts/linux_is_obsolete.shtml
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More FUD
by unknown unknown May 19, 2004 11:52 PM PDT
These are the same people who tried to blame the IT sector's problems on open source and tried to say that open source helps terrorists. I hope these guys get hit with libel suit.
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Tanenbaum himself clarifies this news
by May 19, 2004 11:56 PM PDT
http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/
Tanenbaum sets the record perfectly straight here.
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This is not correct
by VodooMagik May 20, 2004 2:42 AM PDT
i got hold of some intresting fact
read this
http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/
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poor PR
by VodooMagik May 20, 2004 2:49 AM PDT
i think its a PR stunt my microsoft to discredit linux and its origin just cause microsoft its self cannot create something which is not full of bugs its tryin to discredit linux.
That microsoft for you
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Overnight? It took 14 years...
by May 20, 2004 3:09 AM PDT
This articale is absurd.

The first versions of Linus's Unix couldent do much more then write text files. It took 14 years of code writen by Linus and a massive army of Open Source hackers to make it into what we see today.

The question is not "Who wrote Linux?" its "Shouldent a think tank have better things to think about?" - ...Really besides trying to dammage Linux what possable motives could they have for even concitering this research project?
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Sounds like Microsoft has written a book
by May 20, 2004 3:27 AM PDT
This is actually the most rediculous report I have ever heard. The Linux O.S. was almost useless in the first few years. Sounds like Microsoft is running scared. As well they should, charging more money for a product with a 400% markup. Give me a break!!!!!!
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Poor excuse for a troll
by May 20, 2004 3:46 AM PDT
What I have seen of this since the press release came out a couple of days ago, the accusations show a pretty poor understanding of the history of Unix, Linux, and computing history in general. The author doesn't seem to undestand what an O.S. is, what place the Linux kernel takes in the distros, the role that the GNU tools have in the story, what it means to work with a spec... the list goes on and on. The whole thing looks like a half-baked, unknowledgable attack that Steve Balmer would make on CNN to non-technical people that wouldn't know better. Using the word "intvented" doesn't help credibility either.

Shame on CNet for even taking this guy seriously. You have now created a story where there was none and I am sure there will be plenty of FUDittes that jump on it.
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