June 12, 2007 4:00 AM PDT

Are Google's moves creeping you out?

Are Google's moves creeping you out?
news analysis One lazy afternoon, Maer Israel and a colleague ducked out of work to have a double espresso at a nearby cafe in San Francisco.

Several weeks later, the information technology manager at the French American International School was alerted that a picture of him sitting at the cafe could be found on Google's online map as part of the search giant's new street-level photo view.

"The HR manager ran into me in the hallway, and she pulled me aside and...said, 'Do you know that there are cameras everywhere?'" Israel recounted. "Of course, I was a little freaked out because it's the HR person telling me that we got busted having a coffee next door...My mother is surprised I haven't been fired."

Google's recently unveiled Street View stunned many with its photos of the unsuspecting, from a man climbing a front gate to another walking out of a strip club, but it's hardly the first time the company has compiled a massive database of material that some would want to remain private. Indeed, Google has for years been storing every Web search and analyzing the topics of Gmail so it can serve customers with related advertisements.

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An ogling Google
Are you worried about Google invading your privacy?

Not at all.
It's worth the trade-off for the information I get.
Not sure, but Google Maps Street View kind of freaked me out.
Yes, definitely.



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But now that Google is serving up images from the sky with Google Earth, creating street-level images with Street View and tracking customer behavior in cyberspace, some are starting to ask: how much is enough? As blogger Michael Rasmussen wrote in a comment about Street View on the Boing Boing blog, "Damn right, it's creepy."

Saturday, the British activist group Privacy International released a scathing report that said the company is "hostile to privacy" and ranked it the lowest out of nearly two dozen major Web sites when it comes to privacy issues.

Google Maps Street View was singled out. "Techniques and technologies (are) frequently rolled out without adequate public consultation (e.g. Street level view)." Google also has a "track history of ignoring privacy concerns," the report said. "Every corporate announcement involves some new practice involving surveillance."

In addition to Google's "aggressive use of invasive or potentially invasive technologies and techniques," the bad grade was given because of the "diversity and specificity" of Google's products and the ability to share data between them, as well as the company's market dominance and number of users.

Google Maps Street View

Nicole Wong, deputy general counsel who oversees privacy issues at Google, argued that the report was inaccurate and misleading, and complained that Google didn't have a chance to respond to the criticisms.

"The allegations in the report misunderstood a number of our products," Wong said. "More importantly, when you look at the actual ranking, it misses the point on a lot of things we do very well."

For instance, the company partially anonymizes part of the Internet Protocol addresses of searchers after 18 to 24 months, while no other company has publicly stated their retention policy, she said. In addition, Google was the only one of 34 Internet companies to challenge a U.S. Justice Department subpoena on Web searches last year, Wong added.

Search engine expert Danny Sullivan sided with Google in his blog Search Engine Land but wondered if Google is entering new and increasingly controversial territory with its latest product.

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privacy
by jatos June 12, 2007 5:01 AM PDT
I like Google on the whole. I am on the whole not too worried about the data they have on me, bit I do think they should start making some effort to ensure that you can't certain info about one person on Google maps. In particular I think they should blur people and cars.
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No other company could get by with this
by shoffmueller June 12, 2007 5:46 AM PDT
The fact that Google is such a popular company allows it to get a pass on this stuff. Any other company would get killed. Imagine the flames on this forumn if Microsoft or Apple would roll out this technology.
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Not concerned
by dhrlimited June 12, 2007 7:16 AM PDT
I'm not concerned about the Privacy issue, but I do think that Google could blur some of the info. Software that could identify people and blur them in the images probably exists, or could be created. Same thing with license plates.

Also, make sure the mapping and photo taking vehicles are well marked. If you see one coming, hide your face! Maybe notifications that the mapping is taking place should be posted in the local newspapers.

Other than that, if you aren't doing anything wrong, why worry about the photos?
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How do I get a job with Google
by dhrlimited June 12, 2007 7:17 AM PDT
I'm a semi-retired IT professional. How do I get a job driving around taking street level photos? As long as I can map the ski areas in the winter, I'm ready to go!
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I am concerned
by BattleAce7101 June 12, 2007 7:23 AM PDT
I am concerned and I will no longer use google products or its search engine.
Enough already!
So this is how they will get cameras on every street like they did in Britain. Let free enterprise install the cermas instead of the government.
Big Brother is still Big Brother.
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Jeez people, nothing new
by okkent June 12, 2007 7:35 AM PDT
Google isn't posting something that we can't see already. Sure, it is saving moments in time that would otherwise be lost to the hole of unobserved history, but we should all take precautions if we don't want to be "caught"
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1984?
by liam04uk June 12, 2007 7:35 AM PDT
George Orwell 1984 anyone?
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Google has been doing awefull/evil things for years
by Jake Leone June 12, 2007 7:44 AM PDT
Google has been evil for years, we have just been ignoring it or haven't pieced together the company's history in our collective consciousness.

I first heard about Google when I watch a 60 minute program on privacy and the internet several years ago, way before the IPO.

Google had just acquired the rights to the Usenet. Google them promptly put up every post, without blinking an eye. Not a thought was given about being sensitive to people, for example what about people crying out for help with an abusing spouse? That's recorded forever and on display everywhere...

...No thanks to Google.

Then there was the massive amount of personal information that google proudly displays, no thought at all about peoples privacy. BUT when one of the Google founders was also Googled, and people found his address...and other sensitive information, lawyers were brought in to suppress the information.

...2-faced privacy policies, no thanks to Google

Google introduced sattelite maps. So now every burglar can scope out who's likely rich and who's not. Where's the best escape route... How to get into your house. Not even a thought about privacy,

...Again, no thanks to Google

Google acquires YouTube. YouTube, another company that could care less about privacy or copyright laws. Google only acquires the company because YouTube has the largest customer base, ethics be dammed.

Google gets sued for One Billion dollars by people concerned about the infringement on their copyrights. Only then does Google realize, we could lose Billion or more dollars. So they slowly start a process of digital id'ing material on YouTube.

...Greed without a thought about the consequences, brought to you via Google.

...Organized stealing, brought to you by Google and it's proxies.

So is it any surprize that Google now wants to take a photo of you and post it on the internet?

Why doesn't Google start posting all Medical Records?

Why doesn't Google start posting all credit reports?

Why doesn't Google start posting all driving records?

...

Oh, don't worry, they already have that information, and they are working on posting it to the Internet as soon as the right government is purchased.
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So Strange...
by Mapper99 June 12, 2007 7:54 AM PDT
Is it legal to take pictures of a playground or a park? I guess they are public places...just doesn't seem right. Check out this huge list of Google Street View sightings here:

http://streetviewgallery.corank.com
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Out in public
by rich966 June 12, 2007 7:56 AM PDT
If you are in a Street View or Google Earth image, then that means you were already outside, in public, and anyone could take a picture of you, or watch what you are doing and report it to someone else. I don't understand why everyone is making a big deal that their picture was taken while they were out in public. Just like how Google's privacy policies are out in public.

Google has very clearly stated that they will keep your information away from anyone else, they just want to use it to better their products and services.
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Fired over a cup of coffee?
by Professor Cornbread June 12, 2007 8:09 AM PDT
Any company who fires a worker for taking 15 mins to get a cup of coffee should take a serious look at its priorities...
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peopleless, carless
by bobcode June 12, 2007 8:39 AM PDT
They should remove the people and cars from the maps, like the cloudless earth arial map. It'll be private, and better.
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The Expectation of Privacy
by Dr_Zinj June 12, 2007 9:22 AM PDT
Unfortunatly, some of the commentary here shows an appalling lack of understanding. Just because cameras have been around for years doesn't mean that everyone in the world has 24 hour access to your life. A hard copy still photograph captures an instance in time and normally has a limited audience, unless it gets posted to the evening news or the papers. And news photographers tend to be readily noticeable and therefor avoidable while in public. Unless you are a public personality, like Paris Hilton or G.W. Bush, you have a justifiable expectation of anonymity even while in public. With ever present web cams and people snapping pictures and posting them on the web, that anonymity is rapidly disappearing, but the expectations still remain.

It's doubtful that we will be able to return to a de facto condition of anonymity; so we will have to either adjust our behaviors, or change our standards of expectations of acceptability. Arthur C. Clarke's novel, "The Light of Other Days", presents a fascinating vision of what a worldwide society would look like with the total absence of privacy; as well as some of the threats people face during the emergence of such a condition.
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Some people are naughty and do stupid things
by bobby_brady June 12, 2007 9:41 AM PDT
They just don't want the world to know that. It really a moral issue within their own self, not with Goggle.
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Not at all
by inachu June 12, 2007 11:00 AM PDT
If you happen to be in a wheat field with your wife and her passion kicks in.

This is open land.
If you show it then it will be seen.
If you don't want it to be shown then why do it?

The only use for google earth is for drunk men looking for nude beaches.
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StreetView - It's like the average joe's Paparazzi!
by HaveSomeTea June 12, 2007 12:39 PM PDT
Yeah Paris Hilton, we can have it too!!
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The FBI and CIA can do it!
by Pete Bardo June 12, 2007 1:38 PM PDT
It's true, we are on camera most of the day. It's just that we haven't been able to see the photos until now. If the FBI and the CIA can view these images, thank God and Google we can see the stuff now too.

Google didn't put the eye in the sky--we did.
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Is googling creeping you out?
by jmimperial June 12, 2007 1:49 PM PDT
I'm more creeped out with microsoft on how they are shoving off if not taking over the competitor with government backed laws. This is one of them. Spreading paranoia is like CIA stuff and thats creepy!
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Most misunderstand "privacy"
by rwellinghurst June 12, 2007 2:14 PM PDT
It seems that the comments in this article and the resulting feedback items reflect what is sadly all too common. The last two generations, ?X and Y?, just did not get classes in American History and ?Civics? or failed to pay attention if they did. ?Privacy? ends when we leave the comfort of our home and enter the public areas of the world; which is just about everywhere outside the home, doctor?s office and the confessional. What we do in public is fair game. And do not even begin to bring up the constitution, our found fathers were worried about troops coming into their homes not who might see them at the race track on a work day. So get use to it folks, the same video camera we might complain about today is the one we will want used if we are mugged tonight and the next photo of a cute dog we take might have someone in it that has snuck off from work.

I cannot help but wonder if all of this concern for privacy isn?t just the reflection of a guilty conscience.
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What ever happened to...
by btljooz June 12, 2007 2:55 PM PDT
Laws [b][u]AGAINST[/u][/b] [i]Peeping Toms[/i]?????? EH? ?:|
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