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February 6, 2006 6:58 AM PST

Google blacklists BMW.de

Google has blacklisted BMW.de after the carmaker violated the search giant's guidelines by using a technique that could artificially boost its search engine rating, according to a Google engineer.

In a blog, Google software engineer Matt Cutts said that Google had removed BMW's German site from its Web index after the site included "doorway pages" that would automatically redirect visitors to a different URL.

Cutts explained that when Google's crawlers visited a BMW page, it saw blocks of text with repeated key search words such as "neuwagen," which means "new car" in German. However, when a user visited the listed page they would be automatically redirected to another page with less text and more pictures, which was more attractive than the page the crawler saw, but would have scored lower in Google's PageRank system.

"This is a violation of our Webmaster quality guidelines, specifically the principle of 'Don't deceive your users or present different content to search engines than you display to users,'" Cutts' blog said.

To regain Google listing status, Cutts expects that BMW.de will have to remove the JavaScript that redirects users around the site in this fashion and then send a reinclusion request to Google's Webspam team, which Cutts leads. BMW.de has already removed some of the redirect pages.

BMW may also have to disclose details of who created the doorway pages--and assure Google "that such pages won't reappear on the sites"--before the domains can be reincluded, Cutts said.

The German site of technology product vendor Ricoh is also due to be removed from Google "for similar reasons," Cutts said.

BMW and Ricoh were unavailable for immediate comment.

Tom Espiner of ZDNet UK reported from London.

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German coverage about BMW / Google issue
by thomas.wingenfeld February 6, 2006 7:35 AM PST
http://www.zdnet.de/news/tkomm/0,39023151,39140757,00.htm
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According to Google Law?
by rtaggert February 6, 2006 8:18 AM PST
I am concerned about Google censorship of free speech on the Internet. Google is censoring a legitimate automaker, obviously the BMW marquee should rank high in a search engine. Most troubling is that Google is regulating the way the company uses information on the Internet. Perhaps a Google monopoly exits, Google employees believe that the automaker?s response to censor its website was ?compulsory.?
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Big Brother Google
by intellibloke February 6, 2006 9:07 AM PST
A Billion$ company now effectively controls the 'Net and how we can go about displaying information on it.

Why shouldn't i be able to create an artistically outstanding page which contains graphics & flash, but no text and then have other pages redirect to it? It's not as though BMW were claiming neu wagen and redirecting you to porn.

I think the Google 'you will play by our rules' attitude sucks
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by Cyrus_K February 6, 2006 9:55 AM PST
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et tu, Google?
by February 6, 2006 11:08 AM PST
A company which once touted self-righteously its motto 'dont be evil' is now on its knees in front of the Chinese government helping it censor a billion people, and banning legitimate sites from it's search engine for violations of its 'law'.

Hey google - ignoring the fact that you're turning into a sleazy company - I _want_ good search results. If I'm looking for info on BMW, I expect BMW.de to show up - whether or not they're following your 'law'. If I have to use Yahoo, so be it.
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Correction
by February 6, 2006 12:53 PM PST
I just read your article on Google banning BMW?s website titled ?Google blacklists BMW.de?

I noticed 1 thing that was incorrect in the article. ?which was more attractive than the page the crawler saw, but would have scored lower in Google's PageRank system.?



Google?s PageRank system is a measure for how many links are pointed to a particular website. The PageRank number can not be manipulated from on page factors such as keyword stuffing. Bmw.de was participation in website cloaking and that is banned by the Google webmasters Guidelines.



Great article!

I can help you clarify any Search Engine related facts for your future stories.



Spencer Hoyt

President

Comit Technologies

http://www.comittechnologies.com
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Politics as usual
by stan49 February 6, 2006 1:13 PM PST
I think the whole thing is politics. Google rolled right over for the Chinese government, grubbing for money and got publicly trashed for it.
So now they're taking on a titan of industry in a meaningless, possibly even silly, issue to prove to us that they're tough guys who enforce tough standards after all.

I smell a rat, and I'll bet somebody at Google called up BMW and said, "Excuse me, would you be willing to be blacklisted for a few hours?"
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What did you expect?
by robertdohnert February 6, 2006 1:19 PM PST
Google's stupid like that. Right now they are playing the high and mighty role. I quit using their search engine a long time ago because Im starting to really dislike Googles attitude.
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Doorway pages
by Padre213 February 6, 2006 2:35 PM PST
Wouldn't you think a big company like BMW would know how to properly use doorway pages? Search engines do NOT like redirects. It smacks of "fake pages". If I can't put out 50 copies of my homepage, why should THEY be able to?
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Then block most of the adult sites
by al881 February 7, 2006 4:58 AM PST
You just summarized the adult industry. Why pick on BMW? Or is it becuase most people use the search engines to find porn
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Google should blacklist itself
by February 7, 2006 6:54 AM PST
Google is definetely a very good example of antagonism. First it's violated Human Rights because its control of information within China. And now is playing the mighty superhero when trying to control "The Quality" of www.BMW.de webpage.

It should first Blacklist itself.

It seems to me that for Google an issue like "politics overpassing Human Rights" is a less important problem than "Doorway Pages".

Besides if BMW.de has "Doorway Pages" it's my decision wether I come back to its webpage or not.
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Google is a Company Not a Search Engine
by TMB333 February 7, 2006 7:27 AM PST
Once the service became available that Companies can 'buy' their way to the top of Google's list, it should be quite clear that Google no longer is 'reporting' search terms from an objective view, they are simply a high-tech advertising Company that caters to the highest bidder.

This article brought to light 3 important lessons:

1. Google is not the only 'Search Engine Service' out there. NEVER rely on only one if you truly want variety in your search results.

2. As Google becomes a bigger and bigger Company, their respectability becomes smaller and smaller. (Money changes everyone)

3. Google is a FREE service (from a User's point of view), so you'll only get back from it what YOU paid for.
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hmm.
by cube3 April 25, 2008 12:00 AM PDT
like anyone really "needs" a search engine to find out about BMW online.....

google is tommorrows aol.
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Google delists BMW
by mskilli April 25, 2008 12:00 AM PDT
I think that the fact that Google delisted BMW from natural search but continued to take $$ (or Euros) for paid search of THE SAME SITE speaks volumes about Google. ie, they are all for rules and webmaster 'guidelines' but not so passionate that they will take a revenue hit for it.
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